Proposition Results

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Registered: 03-23-2008
Proposition Results
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Thu, 11-06-2008 - 12:21am

There were so many controversial propositions and amendments in several different states that I am fascinated with.


Washington voted for doctor-assisted suicide.


Colorado, South Dakota, and California all voted on limiting abortion rights.


Arkansas, California, Arizona and Florida voted on limiting gay rights.


What did you think of some of these propositions? Were there any shocks/disappointments?


You can go here to see a complete list of all the ballot measures and how the votes went.


http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/ballot.measures/


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Registered: 08-24-2008
Thu, 11-06-2008 - 6:36pm

I don't understand it either (and neither do our kids).


As an aside, should anybody out there want to adopt the children in Arkansas that they don't want gay couples to adopt, there are hundreds of children available and waiting, many of whom will never find parents.

 

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Registered: 08-24-2008
Thu, 11-06-2008 - 6:47pm



Gay Rights Supporters Challenge California Marriage Ban

By VOA News
06 November 2008









Supporters of same-sex marriage have filed at least three lawsuits challenging a ban on gay marriage in California, after the state Tuesday approved an initiative to restrict marriage to heterosexual couples.

California residents voted to amend the constitution in Tuesday's general election by a vote of 52 to 48 percent in near complete results. Voters in Arizona and Florida also approved amendments to ban gay marriage in their respective states.

The results of the vote sparked angry demonstrations in California late Wednesday, as thousands of people marched in cities across the state, including Los Angeles and San Francisco, to protest the ban. Gay rights supporters chanted slogans and waved signs calling for the ban to be overturned.

It is unclear what will happen to the estimated thousands of homosexual couples who married after the state legalized same-sex marriage earlier this year.

In a 4-3 decision in May, the California Supreme Court ruled against a voter-approved law that restricted marriage to a man and a woman. The court said the state constitution's guarantee of equal rights gives same-sex couples the right to marry.

Tuesday's vote overturns that decision.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-11-06-voa35.cfm

 

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Registered: 09-25-2008
Thu, 11-06-2008 - 6:55pm
The new proposition actually changes the Constitution.
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Registered: 01-31-2001
Thu, 11-06-2008 - 7:02pm

Yes, but there is a big difference between your child coming home from school talking about Tommy and his two daddies and asking you questions allowing you to explain your views on the issue and a teacher presenting it in class. The influence that teachers have on our young children is HUGE and the attitudes of those teachers can influence our children in ways we do not agree with. If an evangelical Christian believes that homosexuality is a sin, they should be allowed to teach that to their own children without being undermined by a school lesson.

Also, in speaking to the issue of gay couple adoption. I am fully behind gay couples being able to adopt, however, I also think that private religious agencies, such as Catholic adoption agencies, should be allowed to act according to their religious beliefs when placing children. To force them to allow gay couples to adopt is a clear violation of the separation of church and state. Any adoption agency that accepts public financing, however, should not be able to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation.

I think if you can remove these two issues from the issue of gay marriage, the actual amendment to ban gay marriage would be VERY difficult to pass. I am a far-right conservative and I could care less who someone else marries (same sex, polygamist, etc.). I think there are many conservatives who feel the same, but worry that legalization of gay marriage would necessarily lead to education they are not comfortable with, as well as the infringement on religious freedoms.

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Registered: 09-25-2008
Thu, 11-06-2008 - 7:10pm
The bill contained NOTHING about teaching curriculum or churches, nothing at all. All off that was entirely made up to convince people to vote for the ban. IT was lies and nothing but lies.
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Registered: 01-12-2008
Thu, 11-06-2008 - 7:22pm

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Well, the law already prohibits teachers from teaching anything about sex/family stuff without giving parents a chance to opt out. So there is nothing about Prop 8 that prevents anything that is not already prohibited by law.

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Yes, I agree with that. But did you know that the court decision regarding marriage specifically says “no religion will be required to change its religious policies or practices with regard to same-sex couples, and no religious officiant will be required to solemnize a marriage in contravention of his or her religious beliefs.”

So what frustrates me is that steps have ALREADY been taken to make sure that gay marriage doesn't impinge on family's rights and religious freedoms.



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siggy aug 09
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Registered: 08-24-2008
Thu, 11-06-2008 - 7:28pm

~If an evangelical Christian believes that homosexuality is a sin, they should be allowed to teach that to their own children without being undermined by a school lesson.


I understand the point you are trying to make, but keep in mind that there was a lot of objection and hoopla when the Jack and Jane books started including a black little girl, similar to the objections now re: books that include the families of same sex couples.

 

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Registered: 08-24-2008
Thu, 11-06-2008 - 7:30pm
Thank you.

 

iVillage Member
Registered: 01-12-2008
Thu, 11-06-2008 - 7:34pm

Actually, I think you explained the role of public school in teaching tolerance EXTREMELY well!!



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siggy aug 09
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Registered: 08-24-2008
Thu, 11-06-2008 - 7:52pm

My mother and MIL were both teachers for 40 years, and my wife is a teacher (previously an actress).