Is Race An Issue?

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Registered: 08-22-2008
Is Race An Issue?
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Sat, 09-06-2008 - 10:27am

I have been lurking recently and I haven't seen this come up. I've seen the sexism come up regarding Palin but not the race issue for Obama. I think his race has alot to do with why pp don't want to vote for him. I don't understand how some pp can be a die hard Democrat and support Hillary to the fullest but as soon as Obama won the democratic nomination everybody jumped on McCains band wagon. Sure everybody will say Obama did this and Obama did that. So has McCain. Every presidential candidate promises CHANGE.Bush said all

First Impressions Lasts a Lifetime.

 

Racquel

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Registered: 05-14-2008
Sat, 09-06-2008 - 4:43pm

If Obama had more experience, an actual record of accomplishments to point to, and if I agreed with his economic philosophy....i.e. it was closer to that of the Republican party or perhaps if he were a republican, I "white woman" would vote for him in a heart beat.

As it stands now I couldn't possibly vote for him for reasons having nothing to do with what color he is. In fact the whole color thing is beyond silly IMO. He was raised by a white woman and his white grandparents. He may understand the black perspective better due to his multi-race status and that's a good thing, if I felt he was right on the major things that matter.

In fact, I believe if he is elected he will fail. And that will be worse for him than if he were a complete white guy. That is unfortunate.

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Registered: 08-25-2008
Sat, 09-06-2008 - 4:44pm

you missed my point. of course Republicans want someone to support conservative issues - but why choose a woman when there were equally qualified black men in the party? yes, politics is marketing using people as products and so they chose Palin vs. Blackwell to pick-up the Hillary left-overs. but in making that choice, McCain's advisors played the gender card over the race card.


Yes, they chose to play the gender card over the race card.

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Registered: 07-05-2006
Sat, 09-06-2008 - 4:47pm

OMG - the majority of Republicans are white.

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Sat, 09-06-2008 - 4:49pm

I can say with 100% assurance that Barack Obama's race does not affect my vote. I have always leaned towards the right. I think some people backed Hilary Clinton specifically for her relatively moderate take on the issues. Barack Obama is no where near moderate. He is as left as left gets. I think that's why some people who were backing Hilary are having some doubts. McCain has historically been somewhat moderate, although admitedly far more right than Clinton.

On the other hand, I do believe, 100%, that his race affects some people's vote. I think it's incredibly sad, but I think it would be ignorant for anyone to say that his race isn't playing some part in this election.







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Registered: 08-22-2008
Sat, 09-06-2008 - 4:55pm

I understand your reason for not supporting him. I in

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Racquel

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Registered: 12-30-2004
Sat, 09-06-2008 - 6:12pm

I'm not going to be totally arrogant and say that that is NOT what people think. Because, I am sure you are not the only one who thinks that we are not ready for a black pres. Although that is not my view. I don't care what "color" a person is, is I feel they are "worthy" of my vote I will give it to them.


I know this next statement will probably come back to bite me, but I absoluetly LOVE Condoleezza Rice and I hope and pray that someday she will run for pres. And everytime I hear someone say that "the country is not ready for a black pres. blah blah" I say what about Condoleezza Rice? Now that is a women who is smart and intellectual, and articulate, and really knows what is going on, imo. Everytime I hear she is going to speak, I am there. I love her.


I guess what I am saying is, maybe if it were the right person, in people views, that he/she would be more likely to be the "First black President". But hey, with Condoleezza, we can get both the first black president and the first women president! ;)

 

 

  

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Registered: 07-08-2006
Sat, 09-06-2008 - 6:44pm

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If you are going to quote percentages on one issue (population), please find reputable sources for percentages on the other issue (party affiliation.) The conventions and what you see are not an accurate representation of the actual party. I don't think observations of the conventions are an accurate view of the party as a whole. I know that very few of the people I saw at the RNC represented me, as a registered Republican.

With that said, the Democratic party definitely has a higher percentage of people of color registered. That's because, historically, the Democratic party has focused on higher government spending for social programs. Due to the pervasive racist practices of our country in the past, these social programs have historically been needed by a higher percentage of people of color. Obviously, the people using the programs would choose to support the party providing the programs.

The make-up of the parties is reflective of our country's past. It's also an indication of how far we have to go. I don't, however, think it classifies either party as racist or non-racist.







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Registered: 09-03-2008
Sat, 09-06-2008 - 8:24pm
If Condie were running and a democrat, I would vote for her in a hearbeat!! I do not like Obama.
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Registered: 05-14-2008
Sat, 09-06-2008 - 11:30pm

Exactly! And that is an even greater reason for him not to win. It would be worse for the country for him to win and fail than to not win in the first place. I think whichever candidate "wins" they will have a very difficult time because the president simply does not have the type of "power" to "fix" or "ruin" things as most people seem to think.

Since I believe the current business cycle is such that the recovery could take a number of years by the time the next president finishes his first term things will not be all that much different and therefore the American people will be disappointed and he will not be re-elected.

This will be much worse for Obama than it would be for McCain.

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Registered: 08-25-2008
Sat, 09-06-2008 - 11:42pm

Now then, why wouldn't you vote for Condi as a Republican - that's where her policies are.