Rep. Todd Akin: No pregnancy from 'legitimate rape'

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Rep. Todd Akin: No pregnancy from 'legitimate rape'
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Sun, 08-19-2012 - 7:41pm

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Registered: 07-11-2006

That magical thinker sits on the House Committee for Science, Space, and Technology. **GASP**

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/23/opinion/martonosi-akin-science/

What does that say about the state of our federal government?

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Registered: 07-11-2006
Dr. Jack Willke wrote:
To get and stay pregnant a woman's body must produce a very sophisticated mix of hormones. Hormone production is controlled by a part of the brain that is easily influenced by emotions. There's no greater emotional trauma that can be experienced by a woman than an assault rape. This can radically upset her possibility of ovulation, fertilization, implantation and even nurturing of a pregnancy. So what further percentage reduction in pregnancy will this cause? No one knows, but this factor certainly cuts this last figure by at least 50 percent and probably more.
Mitt Romney said:

I am proud to have the support of a man [Dr. Jack Willke] who has meant so much to the pro-life movement in our country. He knows how important it is to have someone in Washington who will actively promote pro-life policies.


http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/politics/120822/akin-legitimate-rape-source-was-romney-surrogate

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Registered: 07-11-2006

Nowhere in his response was any sense of how a raped women would feel about being forced to bear (and being daily reminded during her pregnancy) a "child" of force and violence.

Because, from the conservative viewpoint, the woman is a non-issue.

George Lakoff, July 16, 2012

The abortion issue is really about male control in family life -- and in society in general. It also involves the notion that women who engage in immoral behavior, such as sex with partners they do not seek to have children with, ought to bear the consequences of their actions as a "just punishment."

More:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-lakoff/birth-control-framing_b_1675759.html

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Registered: 07-11-2006

In Todd's world, a sentient living human woman has less choice about the fate of her body, than whatever may have been conceived, through force and violence, in her uterus.

Extemely well worded, IMO.

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Registered: 02-01-2007

I find it offensive that a man who is making decisions about women's right to chose does not understand basic science. He is basically saying that if you got pregnant after a rape, then it must not have really been a rape becuase your body should take care of preventing a pregnancy. Basically if you got pregnant, it must have been consensual. Maybe his intent was not to demean, but the reality is that he did insult real victims out there.

The other implication of language being used by some GOP about "forcible rape" if that if you were rape you have to somehow prove it. This basically will make it more difficult for women in this situation to terminate thier pregnancies.

I think this decision is between a woman and her doctor. Lawmakers should not be involved, but obviously they don't trust women to have basic rights over their bodies. I can't think of a bigger violation of civil rights than having the government tell you whether you should carry a pregnancy for any reason.

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Registered: 03-03-2009
How hideous. While STD's may make a virgin of either sex more "safe", the simple truth seems to be that women are expected to be "pure" and men aren't.

As for our societal value, it also seems to me that many societies see women as needing dictums about their reproductive organs. When women don't comply with societal mores, they can even face death. http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/20/world/asia/pakistan-honor-confession/index.html

Maybe it's a bit hyperbolic, but it does seem to me that the GOP is waging its own "war on women" and Todd Akin only said what many others actually think.

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 04-16-2009

If he thinks that the female body can stop a rape pregnancy, how does he explain why so many woman are having trouble having children. If we have such control over our bodies.. just saying. Do we really need birth control since we can "decide" to eliminate sperm from our bodies?

I guess Mr. Todd never took a basic biology course.

Oh yes.. This is a common tactic of terror and subjugation. Destroy a people via the "belly". It is also not only a method of ethnic cleansing but an attempt to destroy the woman's place in her community. In many traditional communities,a woman must be a (or at least appear to be) a virgin when she marries. Her virtue is precious to her. A few years ago, a young female foreign grad school was attacked at one of the local universities, while she worked late in the lab one night. The media and the university kept her identity and the details of the crime a secret because of the social stigma this poor girl would face back home, if it became common knowledge. She was worried that no man back home would ever want to marry her.

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Registered: 03-03-2009

I was reading Google News this morning and happened to click on an NBC piece which featured the clip of Todd Akin's now-infamous comments on the Jaco Report.  So far most of the blowback has been over his use of the "legitimate rape" phrase. 

I was equally offended by his suggestion that the rapist should be punished and "not attacking the child".  Nowhere in his response was any sense of how a raped women would feel about being forced to bear (and being daily reminded during her pregnancy) a "child" of force and violence.  IOW, the woman is secondary, maybe even tertiary.  She's just a vessel.  Gaaack.   

I've also been thinking about war rape:

Gita Sahgal, of Amnesty International, told the BBC News website it was a mistake to think such assaults were primarily about the age-old "spoils of war", or sexual gratification.

Rape is often used in ethnic conflicts as a way for attackers to perpetuate their social control and redraw ethnic boundaries, she said.

"Women are seen as the reproducers and carers of the community," she said.

 

Women were raped so they could give birth to a Serbian baby
Medecins Sans Frontieres repor

"Therefore if one group wants to control another they often do it by impregnating women of the other community because they see it as a way of destroying the opposing community."

A report by Medecins Sans Frontieres says it first came across rape as a weapon in the 1990s.

"In Bosnia systematic rape was used as part of the strategy of ethnic cleansing," it said.

"Women were raped so they could give birth to a Serbian baby."  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4078677.stm

If any of the sexist idiots who've been promulgating or defending the stupidity that a woman's body is able to somehow fight off an rape-caused pregnancy, maybe they should address the fact that the use of rape as a strategy to effect ethnic change seems to be getting more widespread and clearly illustrates that the "female body defense mechanism" bloody does NOT work! 

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 05-03-2011

If the Democrats gave him support, it's because they wanted this bozo to run against McCaskill.  It's like I rooted for Sharron Angle to become the GOP candidate because I knew she had no chance in hell of beating Harry Reid.  Even Republicans weren't voting for her.

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Registered: 05-03-2011
He hasn't clarified anything. He still thinks women have special juices or something that fight off unwanted sperm... He thinks there are different classifications of rape as evidenced by him trying to claim he meant "forcible," which doesn't make it sound any better than "legitimate."

I absolutely think he should stay in, though. It'll make it that much harder for Ryan to distance himself from Akin. Lol.

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