Rick Warren to give...

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Rick Warren to give...
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Thu, 12-18-2008 - 8:49am

Innagural invocation????


Oh whiel part of me really applauds Obama for such a brilliant poitical move...and trying to be inclusive...to sway standoffish conservatives....the other part of me is dumb struck. I sincerely dislike Rick Warren's views. But I am a liberal...so I suppose that is to be expected.


Thoughts on this one?


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/17/obama.warren/index.html


PS.....And no...I wouldn't have been happy had it been Rev Wright. A more centrist option is what I was thinking...instead of someone so extreme.

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Registered: 12-08-2008
Thu, 12-18-2008 - 9:23am

You find him extreme? How so?

15 People who Make America Great (Newsweek 2008)

http://www.newsweek.com/id/46165/page/7

Doesn't seem like such a bad pick to me.




Edited 12/18/2008 9:29 am ET by sandyluv88
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Thu, 12-18-2008 - 10:26am

I think it is a brilliant move.

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Thu, 12-18-2008 - 2:08pm

Funny, but for me, choosing Rick Warren fits in exactly with my opinions/view of Obama.

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Thu, 12-18-2008 - 11:26pm

at first i thought, "ARE YOU KINDDING ME!?" but the more i've read about the situation the more 'ok' with it i am.


here are a few bits of what i have read:


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For example, Warren invited then-senator Obama to his church in 2006 for a Global Summit on AIDS — an issue the pastor is passionate about. The invitation was widely denounced by evangelicals because of Obama's support of abortion rights. Critics urged Warren to rescind the invitation, but Warren stuck by his guns.


At Thursday's news conference, Obama recalled that visit. "I was invited to Rick Warren's church to speak despite his awareness that I held views that are entirely contrary to his when it came to gay and lesbian rights and issues like abortion," Obama said. "Nevertheless, I had an opportunity to speak. And that dialogue, I think, is part of what my campaign is all about: that we're not going to agree on every single issue, but what we have to do is be able to create an atmosphere where we can disagree without being disagreeable and then focus on those things that we hold in common as Americans.">> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98453190


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Obama is redefining politics not by driving left or right, but by redefining patriotism. What does it mean to love your country?


To be convinced you know what's right and therefore to sneer at those who disagree with you? Or does loving your country in practice mean finding what's best in all your fellow citizens?


Obama's got an answer to that question. It's where hope comes from.


And if you don't know that, if you still only look through the lens of left and right, blue and red, you really have not been listening.>>


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98458935


i'm not gonna lie, those last few lines kind of made me tear up...

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Registered: 05-06-2007
Fri, 12-19-2008 - 9:28am

I think what you posted is exactly the reason why I and so many others voted for Obama. I never saw him as an extreme liberal but rather, as our best hope to bring this country together. I believed that he would govern from the center and try to do what was in our nation's best interest. Those who refused to see that side of him were imo, buying into the caricature of Obama that was created by conservatives (you know,

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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 11:08am
Just had to say, thumbs up! I totally agree.
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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 11:14pm
I listened to Rick Warren, on Dateline tonight, and he didn't seem extreme to me. I think Obama is reaching across the isle with this choice as well.
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Sun, 12-21-2008 - 6:25pm

I definitely think Pastor Warren has extreme right-wing religious views but as a Liberal I still am not bothered at all by the fact that he'll give a blessing since that is all he's doing - it's not as if he's been asked to participate in a panel to discuss gay marriage legislation or abortion law (although, even if he was, it would still be appropriate to have someone of his beliefs involved - it takes a 360 degree view of an issue to see it fully which means we'd need to hear from those on all sides).


I wish people weren't so upset about this and instead focused on the real issues that we need to actually solve, which are worth battling over - like obtaining legal status for same sex marriage/couples,

 

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Registered: 05-27-2008
Mon, 12-29-2008 - 3:56am
I'm about as liberal as they come but I don't object to Rick Warren participation. As another poster stated there are areas, such as social justice where Warren's and many religious people could align with concerned liberals. We should work together in areas where we have common goals.
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Registered: 12-10-2008
Mon, 12-29-2008 - 8:38pm
While we could understand why Obama chose him, my wife and I were still disappointed.

Kate

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