Santorum would target porn if elected

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Santorum would target porn if elected
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Fri, 03-16-2012 - 11:58am

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Registered: 08-16-2005
Sun, 03-25-2012 - 6:36am
Lol, yes I am so excited for free birth control :). We used condoms so never had insurance cover them and did just fine....you can't say your HC went up because of Obama's plan because it could never happen according to people on this board.

I am not sure they have read that some do have to pay back the SS tax break if they make a certain income. Darn my husband and I for working two jobs, even though he was laid off, didnt take a cent of unemployment because we live as we believe.... I could go on, but there really is no point.


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Registered: 10-23-2001
Sun, 03-25-2012 - 6:37am
Can you provide a comparison in dollars and cents of what Obamacare would cost to those who have employer supported plans now? And while you're at it, Tell me what changes retirees can expect because I worry about the changes in store for people like my dad too....... Thank You.

 

 

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Registered: 05-13-2009
Sun, 03-25-2012 - 8:55am



Really? I am unaware any provision that requires high earners to pay it back. Please enlighten us poor folk.
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Registered: 04-09-2011
Sun, 03-25-2012 - 9:06am

Yeah, that is really funny! Santorum would uphold the Constitution, which protects us from government. Obama, you know, the guy that wants to force us to purchase healthcare against our will, will not, and has not.

Wrong. He would impose *what you believe* the Constitution mandates, which in itself is not set in stone but would be highly contentious and disputable.

Obama would like to cover everyone for health care... contrast that with wanting to prevent women from access to abortion,contraceptives, gays to marriage, people to social security and so on... the differentiating pattern is clear... one works to *help* people, one would work to rule them.

This propensity for the right to see evil in caring for people astounds me. It's okay to have Patriot Acts, it's okay to strip away rights for gays, for women, it's okay to strip away votes from people, but the bogeymen are those who try to get everyone signed up to vote, who try to bring health care to everyone, who try to build a more caring society. We can't have that, how evil!

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Registered: 04-09-2011
Sun, 03-25-2012 - 9:18am

We must have different meanings of freedom, Obama is very much about big government and control... And did this board debate as many GWB policies as they do Obama policies?

Sigh. What is the Patriot Act? What is monitoring your phone calls and text messages and email? What is banning abortion and contraception? What is not allowing same sex marriage? How about the war on drugs? What are these claims of this being a Christian nation subject to Christian dictates? (see dominionism) Our prisons, that hold 23.5% of the world's prisoners yet we have only 5% of the world's population. Hint... those prisoners aren't there because of Obama.

The private sector needs monitoring and regulation, else it would be *as bad* as any totalitarian government. There are reasons regulations now on the books exist, every one put there from adverse experiences, designed to prevent their recurrence.

As we move forward as society, is our vision the wild west or is it an unprecedented society where everyone thrives? This notion of each of us for only ourselves is fracturing, and ultimately, this nation would fall if taken to the limits espoused by the right. It would no longer be a world superpower. The only way it is is if we are in it all together, with room for individuality and for common pooled common purpose.

That means we have to see to it we educate every child. it means we have to have a great transportation system, a great communications system, health care for everyone, safe and reliable food and water sources, and recourse when things go awry. It means safety nets for the unfortunate, and it means we all have to do our part.

There's a balance to be had here. If it's Dodge City and OK Coral shoot outs, then conservatism as currently constituted is your thing.

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Registered: 04-09-2011
Sun, 03-25-2012 - 9:29am

Any president in office (Democrat or Republican) would have and should take blame for this economy.. The game of what Obama inherited is old, And here he is in an election year no less still defending his record on what he inherited, Lol. Why? And what are his own promises for the next 4 years?

It's an improving economy. And actually, I don't blame Bush for the collapse any more than I blame Obama, save for two things: his 2003 tax cut and the war in Iraq, both of which put us in precarious financial position and curtailed the extent to which we could respond to a downturn.

Obama has bagged bin Laden and other al Qaeda leaders, based on bold orders he stated in his campaign he would give. He put in place the stimulus, by all accounts now working. He kept his word on DADT, he rescued the auto companies, he helped topple Gaddhafi with intelligent use of our military, and managed a health care bill, a near impossibility in this nation. He also brought the troops out of Iraq. And, the economy improves consistently.

IMO, his record of achievement is better than any president in my lifetime after three years in office.

What he offers over the next four years are further efforts in health care, the economy, and the deficit.... protecting women's rights - and this one is huge huge huge for me. The irresponsible ideology of neocons played a large role in destabilising this country, and it takes someone pragmatic and caring to set it back on course. Obama is that person, and no one running on the right comes near such a place.

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Registered: 05-05-2009
Sun, 03-25-2012 - 9:30am
"As are claims to the contrary, but the evidence suggests you err."
How so?
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Registered: 05-05-2009
Sun, 03-25-2012 - 9:37am
"In what math terms are you speaking? Has anyone here taken a serious math class in life? Really I want to see osme numbers please."
Numbers for what?
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Registered: 04-09-2011
Sun, 03-25-2012 - 9:41am

So you go into wars when I post about ten years of no increases. I believe that is long term as you suggested. How quick you are to change the topic.

I know of no health offering that remained static across an entire decade. Either coverage, premiums, or the number of participants changed. Any insurer who offered such would bloat into the largest in the industry and would lose their shirt. I'm sorry, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

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Registered: 05-05-2009
Sun, 03-25-2012 - 9:44am
"Obama is very much about big government and control... "
Judging from the comments here, as long as they have free BC, abortion on demand and Gay marriage, the left is happy. Sad really.
This is what the left has created, meanwhile our debt grows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ral0hPl-ZiI

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