Should illegal immigrants get discounted tuition?

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Registered: 11-18-2008
Should illegal immigrants get discounted tuition?
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Mon, 04-09-2012 - 3:57pm

Colorado says yes...

http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=261879

DENVER (AP) - Senate Democrats approved legislation that would allow illegal immigrants in Colorado attend college at a discounted tuition rate.

The bill passed on a party-line vote Monday with Republican opposition. The bill heads to the Republican-controlled House.

The proposal would let illegal immigrants who graduate from Colorado high schools attend college at a rate lower than the out-of-state price, but slightly higher than the in-state rate.

The students must sign an affidavit saying they are seeking legal status.

It would be up to colleges whether to participate in the tuition program.

Supporters say illegal immigrants who grew up attending state schools deserve a chance to attend college at an affordable rate. But opponents say the bill rewards illegal behavior.

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Registered: 04-09-2006
Fri, 04-13-2012 - 8:39pm
There's an article in today's New York Times about a whistleblower at Infosys, who is being shunned and denied work and having his life threatened because he objected to Infosys hiring Indian workers on B-1 (Business Visitor) visas to come to the the US and work full time for the same wages they make in India, even though that visa is supposed to be used for very short term things like conferences and training. The workers should have been getting H-1B visas (more expensive and difficult to get, with employees getting paid US wage rates). Greed seems to drive a not insignificant part of American business policy, sadly.
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Registered: 08-16-2005
Sat, 04-14-2012 - 5:55am
As someone who hires landed India resources and many other countries. It is very much common practice to go the correct way and get the H-1B visas. They are not that hard to get as long as you follow the procedure. The rates for mine are generally around 70/hour, so not the wage they would receive in their home country. They are here legally. While some do what you are saying, most corporations do follow the laws and do it correctly. The good part is that many countries are outpricing themselves and jobs are moving back to the US. Greed is good for us with the other countries wanting more and more.


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Registered: 08-16-2005
Sat, 04-14-2012 - 6:01am
To all because of reply options: Currently our home is being painted. All of the workers are legal residents and have papers. They are also all hispanic. The guys have worked extremely hard to make a business here, do excellent work, and work hard. Yes, I verified the company, the employees, etc. So far 7 neighbors have used this company because their work is higher quality and faster than many of the others in the area. I have no problem with people working here legally, getting here legally, and hiring them. There are many ways to get into this country to work and live, by following the rules they can achieve the 'American Dream'. I have also had situations where a housecleaning company refused to show me papers for their employees, therefore I did report them and not hire them. I don't know if anything came of it, but I also put them on the neighborhood list of who not to use if you wanted to obtain legal work for your home. If more employers were honest we also wouldn't have jobs for these people. We need to all crack down on hiring from the small jobs to the large. We need to place huge fines on companies and deport those that are found.
If we used the money from illegals using our roads, schools, hospitals, etc. we could feed and educate more citizens of this country who are here and having it tough.


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Registered: 10-23-2001
Sat, 04-14-2012 - 7:53am
This is interesting to me, In my part of Texas a lot of if not most landscapers are hispanic. I don't know if they are documented and I don't really care. They cash my check or they deposit them, They do fantastic work.. There are policies under Gov Perry I do not like but this is not one of them, I don't agree that we should afford them college tuition breaks w/o citizenship first.

 

 

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Registered: 01-08-2009
Sat, 04-14-2012 - 7:57am
So undocumented workers are OK to take jobs you're not interested in, but not OK to take college spots you might be interested in for your kids?
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Registered: 08-16-2005
Sat, 04-14-2012 - 8:04am
My opinion is that if I believe illegals should not be here, in good conscience, I can't hire them. One it is illegal and two I would be enabling them to continue to break the law.


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Registered: 10-23-2001
Sat, 04-14-2012 - 8:21am
An undocumented lawncare guy (if that is the case) isn't the same thing as allowing someone to study in our schools.. It makes no sense to send them to school undocumented...

 

 

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Registered: 10-23-2001
Sat, 04-14-2012 - 8:43am
I understand this, But I think there should be an opportunity for them to work for pay somewere, Or do we let them starve? Aren't small jobs the kind of work undocumented workers are doing anyway? I don't think it's ok they study in our schools, obtain degreees then get to decide if they want to stay or not... Citizenship should come first there, IMO.

 

 

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Registered: 08-16-2005
Sat, 04-14-2012 - 8:57am
The small jobs are taking away those from our children. I hired a 16 year old for lawn care because he wants to learn and work, but has trouble finding jobs due to illegals taking these. IMO I would rather help those that can make a difference in our country legally. I also can't hire one because then I am just as wrong as they are for working illegally. I believe both employers and illegals should be punished, or this will never be resolved.


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Registered: 05-03-2011
Sat, 04-14-2012 - 10:24am
That was the exact same thing I was thinking. Amazing that someone can bitch about illegal immigrants and at the same time have no problem hiring them.

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