So this is 51% of our country, how sad

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So this is 51% of our country, how sad
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Tue, 11-11-2008 - 10:16am

A video showing just what we've been saying.

KAREN

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Thu, 11-20-2008 - 3:46am
It may still be possible, but changing to the debit system has reduced illegal food stamp trafficking by a huge percentage. But I think with seriously drug addicted parents there are much bigger issues than whether or not they manage to sell food stamps.
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Thu, 11-20-2008 - 8:25am

you know, i was about to spend some time and respond to your post, to tell you that just because i chose to discuss one topic, doesn't mean i think every other issue in the world is acceptable...let's not try to distract from the topic at hand by complaining about something else!


and i was going to tell you that for ever 1 Ken in the country, there are thousands of suzies.


but then i read your last REDICULOUS comment, and decided that it isn't worth my time if you have that attitude


-Kristen

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Thu, 11-20-2008 - 8:37am

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I understand that you may not find corporate cheating to be acceptable but I can also understand the other poster's point. You said in more than one post that it's the welfare abusers who really hurt the taxpayers, not corporations. You also said that you did not understand how "corporate waste" affected us as taxpayers. When it was pointed out to you that we were not

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mom to Aidan 8/21/03
Grayson Blaine 12/30/07

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Thu, 11-20-2008 - 8:38am

and i was going to tell you that for ever 1 Ken in the country, there are thousands of suzies.


Can you prove that? How do you know there are thousands of people abusing welfare for every one Ken? It seems like if you knew who all these people were, or at least how many there were, we would have long been able to fix this problem.


And even if that were true, that there were thousands of Susies to ever Ken, let's do some math. How many thousands were you thinking there were for every Ken? I said 5,000. If there are 5,000 welfare abusers for every Ken and they are each wasting $30 a month, that comes to a combined total of $1.8 million a year. That's a lot of money. But Ken wasted more. He stole pension plans and retirement from all of his employees and he cheated the taxpayers out of millions of dollars. So even if it's true that there are thousands of welfare abusers for every Ken, which there is no way to prove or not, the amount of money doesn't even compare.


So my question is this: If it's a matter of saving money, why is it welfare abuse that is the only issue being discussed? If it's not a matter of money, what is it about welfare abuse that gets to you so much?


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Thu, 11-20-2008 - 8:45am

"If it's not a matter of money, what is it about welfare abuse that gets to you so much?"


I will guess again that it is the welfare abusers are the easy targets. It FEELS good to be better than someone else and to pick part anothers choices. It is harder to do that with people who, even though they lie,cheat and steal much more money, live in big houses and drive fancy cars.


No one wants to be Susie so she is easy to hate, even if Ken is a low down, dirty dog we still aspire to live his life so how he got there just doesn't seem as bad.

 

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Thu, 11-20-2008 - 9:19am

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One Ken can do more damage than 10,000 Suzies.

 


 


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Thu, 11-20-2008 - 9:21am

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because it is what i see them most....


i tend to chose to discuss the things i am more knowledgable about...


I didn't comment much on the war, because I don't have as many personal experiences related tot he topic.


However, i have quite a few personla experiences with people who mis-manage thier funds and often require public assistance as a result, ot thier mis-management compounds thier dependance.


I talk about it because it is what i know.


I don't like certain things about the war, but i chose not to discuss it here because there aer too many people on here who know more, so i will either be jumped all over for what i say, or my input will be greatly insignificant to what others can contribute..


the fact that i don't say anything about the war does not mean that i agree with it.


and no, you can't prove my math any more that we can prove yours.


I do strongly believe that there is more waste in people's personal budgeting than in corporate budgeting...there are so few CEOs or CFOs in this country compared to civilians...I don't feel like digging up numbers (if they exist), so if you want, you can dissagree...that's fine.

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-Kristen

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Thu, 11-20-2008 - 9:24am

we have gone around and around on this.


and it looks like you ignored my last comment in that circle.


corporate waste is different than corporate tax fraud


it is sad that you think there are only 2 options...1 that i think it is ok, or 2 that i want to turn a blind eye.


corporate tax fraud is a problem...satisfied?

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-Kristen

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Thu, 11-20-2008 - 9:25am

you guessed wrong


-Kristen

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Thu, 11-20-2008 - 9:27am

<<I do strongly believe that there is more waste in people's personal budgeting than in corporate budgeting...there are so few CEOs or CFOs in this country compared to civilians...I don't feel like digging up numbers (if they exist), so if you want, you can dissagree...that's fine.>>


But again, we are not really discussing corporate budgeting but rather, corporate cheating and fraud. Loopholes and outright fraud create billions in lost tax revenue each year. BILLIONS.

Chrissy
mom to Aidan 8/21/03
Grayson Blaine 12/30/07

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