you know, funny thing, I was listening to the news this morning and they played little segments of speeches from McCain and Obama bashing eachother for their tax plans.
McCain said: so Obama wants to give money back to those who don't pay an income tax, to those who already receive an earned income tax credit, which means the treasury dept. will be cutting checks for these people, who is going to pay the treasury dept. back?
From Obama's web site: FACT #5: Obama Has Called For a Bipartisan Social Security Solution That Asks the Wealthiest Americans to Contribute Their Fair Share. He Does Not Support Fully Uncapping the Payroll Tax for Social Security at the 12.4 Percent Rate. Barack Obama would like to work with members of Congress from both parties to strengthen Social Security and prevent privatization while protecting middle class families from tax increases or benefit cuts. As part of a bipartisan plan that would be phased in over many years, he would ask those making over $250,000 to contribute a bit more to Social Security to keep it sound. Despite the smears of his opponents, Obama does not support uncapping the payroll tax at the full 12.4 percent rate. Instead, Obama and Biden are considering plans that would ask those making over $250,000 to pay in the range of 2 to 4 percentage points more in total (combined employer and employee). This change to Social Security would start a decade or more from now and is similar to the rate increases floated by McCain’s close adviser Senator Lindsey Graham and that McCain has previously said he “could” support. http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/taxes/Tax_Plan_Facts_FINAL.pdf
--- As I noted early, but you apparently ignored, any tax cut is a good thing. What I don't like to see is that Obama apparently wants to punish those who he believes make too much. ---
Then why does it mean nothing to you that McCain said the very same things while running in 2000. Yet another in a long list of items that he has flip flopped on since running for President:
MCCAIN: I think your question -- questioning the fundamentals of a progressive tax system where people who make more money pay more in taxes than a flat, across-the-board percentage. I think it's to some degree because we feel, obviously, that wealthy people can afford more. We have over the years, beginning with John F. Kennedy, reduced some of those marginal tax rates to make them less onerous.
But I believe that when you really look at the tax code today, the very wealthy, because they can afford tax lawyers and all kinds of loopholes, really don't pay nearly as much as you think they do when you just look at the percentages. And I think middle-income Americans, working Americans, when the account and payroll taxes, sales taxes, mortgage pay -- all of the taxes that working Americans pay, I think they -- you would think that they also deserve significant relief, in my view...
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Reward Republicans for 8 years of failure? No way, No how, No McCain!
--- It's called FORCING the wealthy to pay for the people and intrastructure. Why don't we have to pay for it, why do we get a cut, shouldn't WE as well as the wealthy have to pay for the infrastructure? ---
Wow, that's some strong sense of country-first and nationalism you got there.
The wealthy will pay more for one simple reason: They can.
Try as you will, you will not win this issue with Middle-class America, not going to happen.
Besides, McCain himself said the same thing in 2000, but I'm sure as any good partisan would, it don't matter to you eh?
It's called FORCING the wealthy to pay for the people and intrastructure. Why don't we have to pay for it, why do we get a cut, shouldn't WE as well as the wealthy have to pay for the infrastructure?
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Reward Republicans for 8 years of failure? No way, No how, No McCain!
--- The notion of taxes as punishment is just plain misleading. We need taxes to pay for expenditures. It is true government spending can help raise revenue but if you are not using it at home it can be wasteful when our own infrastructures are falling apart. ---
I agree. And look at the opposition: People who say 'Country First'
But really, there's no sense of nationalism in the McCain camp, it's all ME ME ME ME ME
The wealthy will pay more for one simple reason: They can.
And the rate they're paying, scores less than it was for our parents.
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Reward Republicans for 8 years of failure? No way, No how, No McCain!
Fact: In the almost 3 decades since it was proposed, the concept of Trickle-down Economics has not worked. It is in fact, just what George HW Bush himself called it: Voodoo Economics.
We as Americans have lived with YOUR policies of Borrow and Spend and it's breaking us in two.
Borrow and spend, that's been your mantra and it's a complete failure. Borrow from MY CHILDREN so you can enjoy your ME ME ME ME life today? No way, No how....
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LOL, do you have a link for this link?
You're making it way more complicated than it is.
you know, funny thing, I was listening to the news this morning and they played little segments of speeches from McCain and Obama bashing eachother for their tax plans.
McCain said: so Obama wants to give money back to those who don't pay an income tax, to those who already receive an earned income tax credit, which means the treasury dept. will be cutting checks for these people, who is going to pay the treasury dept. back?
KAREN
Social Security taxes have never been levied on all income.
Obama is proposing to impose social security taxes above the current ceiling.
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As I noted early, but you apparently ignored, any tax cut is a good thing. What I don't like to see is that Obama apparently wants to punish those who he believes make too much.
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Then why does it mean nothing to you that McCain said the very same things while running in 2000. Yet another in a long list of items that he has flip flopped on since running for President:
MCCAIN: I think your question -- questioning the fundamentals of a progressive tax system where people who make more money pay more in taxes than a flat, across-the-board percentage. I think it's to some degree because we feel, obviously, that wealthy people can afford more. We have over the years, beginning with John F. Kennedy, reduced some of those marginal tax rates to make them less onerous.
But I believe that when you really look at the tax code today, the very wealthy, because they can afford tax lawyers and all kinds of loopholes, really don't pay nearly as much as you think they do when you just look at the percentages. And I think middle-income Americans, working Americans, when the account and payroll taxes, sales taxes, mortgage pay -- all of the taxes that working Americans pay, I think they -- you would think that they also deserve significant relief, in my view...
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Reward Republicans for 8 years of failure? No way, No how, No McCain!
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It's called FORCING the wealthy to pay for the people and intrastructure. Why don't we have to pay for it, why do we get a cut, shouldn't WE as well as the wealthy have to pay for the infrastructure?
---
Wow, that's some strong sense of country-first and nationalism you got there.
The wealthy will pay more for one simple reason: They can.
Try as you will, you will not win this issue with Middle-class America, not going to happen.
Besides, McCain himself said the same thing in 2000, but I'm sure as any good partisan would, it don't matter to you eh?
It's called FORCING the wealthy to pay for the people and intrastructure. Why don't we have to pay for it, why do we get a cut, shouldn't WE as well as the wealthy have to pay for the infrastructure?
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Reward Republicans for 8 years of failure? No way, No how, No McCain!
I disagree.
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The notion of taxes as punishment is just plain misleading. We need taxes to pay for expenditures. It is true government spending can help raise revenue but if you are not using it at home it can be wasteful when our own infrastructures are falling apart.
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I agree. And look at the opposition: People who say 'Country First'
But really, there's no sense of nationalism in the McCain camp, it's all ME ME ME ME ME
The wealthy will pay more for one simple reason: They can.
And the rate they're paying, scores less than it was for our parents.
================================
Reward Republicans for 8 years of failure? No way, No how, No McCain!
Fact: In the almost 3 decades since it was proposed, the concept of Trickle-down Economics has not worked. It is in fact, just what George HW Bush himself called it: Voodoo Economics.
We as Americans have lived with YOUR policies of Borrow and Spend and it's breaking us in two.
Borrow and spend, that's been your mantra and it's a complete failure. Borrow from MY CHILDREN so you can enjoy your ME ME ME ME life today? No way, No how....
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Reward Republicans for 8 years of failure? No way, No how, No McCain!
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