Something's starting to smell fishy in Arizona

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Something's starting to smell fishy in Arizona
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Tue, 01-11-2011 - 1:37pm

Has anyone else heard that the outspoken sheriff, the one who is out front politicizing the shooting, might be trying to cover up the fact that his dept has had run ins with the suspect in the past...including reports of the shooter making threats on the lives of more than one person in the past? The sheriff assured the citizens that the suspect was being well managed in the mental health agencies of the county and that filing charges wouldn't help the citizens. Also that the suspect's mom is a county employee...if that is the case how might this have influenced the dept's decisions not to press charges? If a felony charge had been brought against this mad man, would he have been able to purchase that gun? Does the sheriff maybe have cause to worry that he needs to cover his own rear end? Hmmmm, I was wondering why this man was so out front in his placing of blame...unusual for a law enforcement position. Maybe this makes sense......

Sonny

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Registered: 01-28-2009
I'm finding your posts on the second ammendment very enlightening. :o)
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Registered: 03-02-2009

Obviusly, I disagree.

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Mon, 01-17-2011 - 10:19am

I am repeating because there still has been no acknowledgment that the introductory clause clearly states the purpose for the people's right to bear arms.

Jabberwocka

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Mon, 01-17-2011 - 10:14am
LMBO>>>

I really hate this format, it takes forever to load, and I have no idea what you are laughing at.

 


 


I disagree with you, but I'm pretty sure

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Registered: 06-02-2009
Sun, 01-16-2011 - 11:26pm

Clearly - I misunderstood something. It could just be that I am being overly sensitive. The llast month has been really hard on me..

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Registered: 06-02-2009
Sun, 01-16-2011 - 11:24pm

LMBO

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Registered: 10-22-2009
Sun, 01-16-2011 - 10:40am

believe it or not i agree with you. I think it is pretty obvious that "the people" means individual rights. It is stated all over the constitution.

Iam a supporter of gun control, but "the people do have the right to bear arms" the

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Registered: 03-02-2009
Sun, 01-16-2011 - 10:03am

Sorry, no need to keep repeating yourself, I know what argument you are making. I think that there is no way that a reasonable person (in court terms) could look at what they wrote and determine that people do not have the right to bear arms.

It gives the states their right in the first part, and the people the right in the second part. Otherwise, what is the function of the second part? Just a little prose they added? What do you think it means, nothing? They were pretty concise with the Constitution.

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Registered: 03-03-2009

I have tried to express repeatedly that there was a purpose to the Second which transcends individual firearms ownership for the sake of personal self-defense.

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 03-02-2009
Sun, 01-16-2011 - 12:31am

Here's the whole thing...

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

You would need to do a lot of twisting, turning, and quite a bit of fantasy to say that the right for the people to keep and bear arms isn't there. It's short and direct. It's as clear as a bell. What can't be infringed? The right of the States to have a militia and the right of the people to bear arms. They would have stopped at the militia part if they didn't want people to have the right also.

Well, the first amendment doesn't even say that the people have the right to free speech, at least not as directly as the 2nd does about bearing arms.

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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