I have to agree, it's time to stop the madness. I just can't take all the negativity anymore. Between the ads full of twisted information and the mean-spirited attacks, I've been feeling so depressed. I can't watch the news anymore. And I'm to the point that I wish campaign ads weren't allowed on tv. Really what's the point of a 30 second commercial for a politician? I'll tell you - the point is to draw in uninformed voters who don't take the time to educate themselves on the real issues. It's just sad. And it's the same problem when people listen to the politicians speak at rallies but then don't follow up by investigating the truth for themselves. Wake up people, they're trying to sell themselves, make sure you understand what they're really selling before you buy it!
I posted about this in one of the other threads but I want to repost it again. PLEASE pay particular attention to the last paragraph. TIA
From post #128 in "I'm done with her":
As an Obama supporter I wanted to explain why the Obama-Ayers connection does not bother me and will not affect my vote.
1 - The comments that some posters have attributed to Ayers ("I don't regret...;we didn't do enough...;etc.") have been taken out of context as another poster has already pointed out. She posted the complete quotes and in the correct context they are not the evil words they have been made out to be.
2 - I do not believe in guilt by association. Obama did not participate in nor did he support any acts of terrorism. His association with Ayers is precisely that - an ASSOCIATION. They are acquaintances. Try to think of everyone you've ever been acquainted with. If you were running for public office, who would your opponent be able to associate you with that could possibly have a negative or questionable impact on
They can't-it's all they have. Out of ideas and out of time. All they can do is hope to incite enough hate to scare enough people. But I don't think these Rovian tactics work so well these days. People have real concerns and have seen where Bush took this country-from peace and prosperity to debt and endless unecessary war. Debt and death is all they have to offer so all they can do is scream-look at him, he's black and has a funny name and he knows a guy who did bad things a really long time ago and he worked with scary poor black people in Chicago who probably are terrorists too. I can hardly imagine what they'll say tomorrow as they lurch from one phony crackpot claim to the next.
I thought this was America, land of immigrants, melting pot, everyone equal. Elections should be about issues that matter to people. McCain & Palin have decided to disgrace themselves and this country and that's their right. But I have faith that the American people will see this for what it is. The desparate flailings of a desparate and losing campaign. I have faith that they will choose the candidate of the high road and high ideals who tries to inspire the better angels of our nature.
"It's time to put the election behind us and the country in front of us. Barack Obama wasn't my choice, but come January 20th, he will be MY President.... I will not seek to see all
"It's time to put the election behind us and the country in front of us. Barack Obama wasn't my choice, but come January 20th, he will be MY President.... I will not seek to see all
I have to agree, it's time to stop the madness. I just can't take all the negativity anymore. Between the ads full of twisted information and the mean-spirited attacks, I've been feeling so depressed.
Get over it heavenly, it's the future of our great nation at stake for God's sake.
i have asked this question before and now i am asking you specifically: what news source do you trust?
and if you tell me you read the Congressional Record and form your own opinions based on how they vote, i won't believe you unless you have no job and no kids because no one has that much time unless they are paid for it. plus it has nothing to do with this Obama-Ayers association because that is not in the Congressional Record.
but her is something you can do. look at this list of names and tell me why each of them is not being pursued as a terrorist? why is each and every person who shook hands with Ayers not been fired from their jobs for associating with terrorists?
from The Woods Fund - Howard J. Stanback - Board Chair - Manager, New Kenwood, LLC Maria G. Valdez - Board Vice Chair - Attorney-at-Law, Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund William C. Ayers - Distinguished Professor of Education, University of Illinois at Chicago Cynthia M. Campbell - President, McCormick Theological Seminary R. Eden Martin - President, Civic Committee and the Commercial Club Barack Obama - State Senator and Lecturer, University of Chicago Law School Charles N. Wheatley - President, Sahara Enterprises, Inc. Laura S. Washington - Board Chair - Ida B. Wells-Barnett University Professor and Fellow of the DePaul Humanities Center Jesus G. Garcia - Board Vice Chair - Executive Director, Little Village Community Development Corporation William C. Ayers - Distinguished Professor of Education, University of Illinois at Chicago Lee Bey - Director of Media and Governmental Affairs, Skidmore, Owings, & Merrill LLP Doris Salomón Chagin - Community Affairs Director, Midwest US, BP America Inc. Beth E. Richie - Professor and Head of the Department of African American Studies, University of Illinois at Chicago Patrick M. Sheahan - Executive Director, Public Affairs, UBS Investment Bank Charles N. Wheatley - President, Sahara Enterprises, Inc.
from Chicago Annenberg Challenge - Patricia Albjerg Graham, president of the Spencer Foundation (1991–2000); professor of the history of education (1977–2006) and former dean of the Harvard Graduate School of Education (1982–1991); former dean of the Radcliffe Institute (1974–1977) and vice president of Radcliffe College (1976–1977); former assistant professor (1965–1968), associate professor (1968–1972), professor (1972–1974) of the history of education at Barnard College and Teachers College, Columbia University; former assistant professor of the history of education at Indiana University (1964–1966); former high school teacher, Norfolk, Viriginia (1955–1956, 1957–1958), New York City (1958–1960); Ph.D. 1964, Columbia University; B.S. 1955, M.S. 1957, Purdue University Edward Bottum, managing director of Chase Franklin Corp.; former president and vice chairman of Continental Illinois Bank Connie Evans, founder and president of the Women's Self-Employment Project Susan Blankenbaker Noyes, former labor attorney at Sidley & Austin; daughter of Republican former Indiana state senator Virginia Murphy Blankenbaker; goddaughter of Patricia Albjerg Graham Scott C. Smith, president, CEO and publisher of the Chicago Tribune; former president, CEO and publisher of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel of Fort Lauderdale; former chairman of the South Florida Annenberg Challenge Nancy Searle, consultant to the Searle Funds at the Chicago Community Trust Victoria Chou, dean of the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago John W. McCarter, Jr., president and CEO of the Field Museum Jim Reynolds, Jr., co-founder, chairman and CEO of Loop Capital Services Warren Chapman, senior program officer for education at the Joyce Foundation; former state coordinator at the Illinois State Board of Education for the Illinois Alliance of Essential Schools—a regional center of the Coalition of Essential Schools (1986–1992) Anne Hallett, executive director and founder of the Cross-City Campaign for Urban School Reform; former executive director of the Wieboldt Foundation (1986–1993); former executive director of the Citizens Education Center in Seattle (1983–1986); former executive director and founder of the Chicago Panel on School Policy (1982–1983); former chair, founder, and chief lobbyist for Citizens for Fair School Funding in Seattle (1976–1982) Patricia Anderson, principal, Sullivan High School Sheila Castillo, coordinator, Chicago Association of Local School Councils; LSC member, Inter-American Magnet School Jessica Clarke, education director, Chicago Urban League Dolores Cross, president, Chicago State University James Deanes, president, Parent/Community Council; LSC member, Armstrong Elementary School Lafayette Ford, LSC member, Lucy Flower Vocational High School; former chairman, Chicago School Board Nominating Commission Adela Coronado-Greeley, teacher and founder, Inter-American Magnet School; 1993–4 Illinois Teacher of the Year Patricia Harvey, executive assistant to the general superintendent (1993–5), chief accountability officer (1995–7), Chicago Public Schools; former principal, Hefferan Elementary School Brenda Heffner, director, Chicago office of the Illinois State Board of Education; former principal, Haven Middle School in Evanston, and Haugan, Smyser, and Beethoven Elementary Schools in Chicago Sokoni Karanja, executive director and founder, Centers for New Horizons; 1993 MacArthur Fellow; former member of the board of directors, Woods Charitable Fund (1987–1992 Peter Martinez, senior program officer for education, John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation (1991–2001); convenor of the Alliance for Better Chicago Schools (ABCs) coalition (Spring 1988) Coretta McFerren, executive director, West Side Schools and Communities Organizing for Restructuring and Planning (WSCORP); former staff coordinator and chief spokeswoman, People's Coaltion for Educational Reform (PCER) Eric Outten, co-chairman, Schools First; LSC member, Hirsch High School and Burnside Elementary School Migdalia "Millie" Rivera, executive director, Latino Institute Joan Jeter-Slay, associate director, Designs for Change; former member, Interim Chicago School Board (1989–1990) Bernard Spillman, consultant, the Comer Project; former assistant superintendent for academic and vocational instructional support, Chicago Public Schools; former principal, Westinghouse Vocational High Schoo Lynn St. James, co-director, Chicago Forum for School Change—an affiliate of the Coalition of Essential Schools (1994–5); chief education officer, Chicago Public Schools (1995–7); former principal of Lindblom High School, King High School and Pirie Elementary School Carol Swinney, policy advisor, Office of the Mayor Beverly Tunney, president, Chicago Principals Association; principal, Healy Elementary Schoo Deborah Lynch-Walsh, director, Chicago Teachers Union Quest Center (1992–5); teacher, Marquette Elementary School (1995–2001); president, Chicago Teachers Union (2001–4)
"It's time to put the election behind us and the country in front of us. Barack Obama wasn't my choice, but come January 20th, he will be MY President.... I will not seek to see all
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I have to agree, it's time to stop the madness. I just can't take all the negativity anymore. Between the ads full of twisted information and the mean-spirited attacks, I've been feeling so depressed. I can't watch the news anymore. And I'm to the point that I wish campaign ads weren't allowed on tv. Really what's the point of a 30 second commercial for a politician? I'll tell you - the point is to draw in uninformed voters who don't take the time to educate themselves on the real issues. It's just sad. And it's the same problem when people listen to the politicians speak at rallies but then don't follow up by investigating the truth for themselves. Wake up people, they're trying to sell themselves, make sure you understand what they're really selling before you buy it!
I posted about this in one of the other threads but I want to repost it again. PLEASE pay particular attention to the last paragraph. TIA
From post #128 in "I'm done with her":
As an Obama supporter I wanted to explain why the Obama-Ayers connection does not bother me and will not affect my vote.
1 - The comments that some posters have attributed to Ayers ("I don't regret...;we didn't do enough...;etc.") have been taken out of context as another poster has already pointed out. She posted the complete quotes and in the correct context they are not the evil words they have been made out to be.
2 - I do not believe in guilt by association. Obama did not participate in nor did he support any acts of terrorism. His association with Ayers is precisely that - an ASSOCIATION. They are acquaintances. Try to think of everyone you've ever been acquainted with. If you were running for public office, who would your opponent be able to associate you with that could possibly have a negative or questionable impact on
Chrissy
mom to Aidan 8/21/03
Grayson Blaine 12/30/07
They can't-it's all they have. Out of ideas and out of time. All they can do is hope to incite enough hate to scare enough people. But I don't think these Rovian tactics work so well these days. People have real concerns and have seen where Bush took this country-from peace and prosperity to debt and endless unecessary war. Debt and death is all they have to offer so all they can do is scream-look at him, he's black and has a funny name and he knows a guy who did bad things a really long time ago and he worked with scary poor black people in Chicago who probably are terrorists too. I can hardly imagine what they'll say tomorrow as they lurch from one phony crackpot claim to the next.
I thought this was America, land of immigrants, melting pot, everyone equal. Elections should be about issues that matter to people. McCain & Palin have decided to disgrace themselves and this country and that's their right. But I have faith that the American people will see this for what it is. The desparate flailings of a desparate and losing campaign. I have faith that they will choose the candidate of the high road and high ideals who tries to inspire the better angels of our nature.
How in the heck did Obama participate in Ayers wrong-doings? HE WAS 8 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME!
Chrissy
mom to Aidan 8/21/03
Grayson Blaine 12/30/07
Obama wasn't 8 yrs old when Ayers expressed his wish they had carried out their endeavors.
"It's time to put the election behind us and the country in front of us. Barack Obama wasn't my choice, but come January 20th, he will be MY President.... I will not seek to see all
I am tired of hearing people falsely claim Obama has lied or has had a questionable relationship with Ayers.
"It's time to put the election behind us and the country in front of us. Barack Obama wasn't my choice, but come January 20th, he will be MY President.... I will not seek to see all
Get over it heavenly, it's the future of our great nation at stake for God's sake.
i have asked this question before and now i am asking you specifically: what news source do you trust?
and if you tell me you read the Congressional Record and form your own opinions based on how they vote, i won't believe you unless you have no job and no kids because no one has that much time unless they are paid for it. plus it has nothing to do with this Obama-Ayers association because that is not in the Congressional Record.
but her is something you can do. look at this list of names and tell me why each of them is not being pursued as a terrorist? why is each and every person who shook hands with Ayers not been fired from their jobs for associating with terrorists?
from The Woods Fund -
Howard J. Stanback - Board Chair - Manager, New Kenwood, LLC
Maria G. Valdez - Board Vice Chair - Attorney-at-Law, Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund
William C. Ayers - Distinguished Professor of Education, University of Illinois at Chicago
Cynthia M. Campbell - President, McCormick Theological Seminary
R. Eden Martin - President, Civic Committee and the Commercial Club
Barack Obama - State Senator and Lecturer, University of Chicago Law School
Charles N. Wheatley - President, Sahara Enterprises, Inc.
Laura S. Washington - Board Chair - Ida B. Wells-Barnett University Professor and Fellow of the DePaul Humanities Center
Jesus G. Garcia - Board Vice Chair - Executive Director, Little Village Community Development Corporation
William C. Ayers - Distinguished Professor of Education, University of Illinois at Chicago
Lee Bey - Director of Media and Governmental Affairs, Skidmore, Owings, & Merrill LLP
Doris Salomón Chagin - Community Affairs Director, Midwest US, BP America Inc.
Beth E. Richie - Professor and Head of the Department of African American Studies, University of Illinois at Chicago
Patrick M. Sheahan - Executive Director, Public Affairs, UBS Investment Bank
Charles N. Wheatley - President, Sahara Enterprises, Inc.
from Chicago Annenberg Challenge -
Patricia Albjerg Graham, president of the Spencer Foundation (1991–2000); professor of the history of education (1977–2006) and former dean of the Harvard Graduate School of Education (1982–1991); former dean of the Radcliffe Institute (1974–1977) and vice president of Radcliffe College (1976–1977); former assistant professor (1965–1968), associate professor (1968–1972), professor (1972–1974) of the history of education at Barnard College and Teachers College, Columbia University; former assistant professor of the history of education at Indiana University (1964–1966); former high school teacher, Norfolk, Viriginia (1955–1956, 1957–1958), New York City (1958–1960); Ph.D. 1964, Columbia University; B.S. 1955, M.S. 1957, Purdue University
Edward Bottum, managing director of Chase Franklin Corp.; former president and vice chairman of Continental Illinois Bank
Connie Evans, founder and president of the Women's Self-Employment Project
Susan Blankenbaker Noyes, former labor attorney at Sidley & Austin; daughter of Republican former Indiana state senator Virginia Murphy Blankenbaker; goddaughter of Patricia Albjerg Graham
Scott C. Smith, president, CEO and publisher of the Chicago Tribune; former president, CEO and publisher of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel of Fort Lauderdale; former chairman of the South Florida Annenberg Challenge
Nancy Searle, consultant to the Searle Funds at the Chicago Community Trust
Victoria Chou, dean of the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago
John W. McCarter, Jr., president and CEO of the Field Museum
Jim Reynolds, Jr., co-founder, chairman and CEO of Loop Capital Services
Warren Chapman, senior program officer for education at the Joyce Foundation; former state coordinator at the Illinois State Board of Education for the Illinois Alliance of Essential Schools—a regional center of the Coalition of Essential Schools (1986–1992)
Anne Hallett, executive director and founder of the Cross-City Campaign for Urban School Reform; former executive director of the Wieboldt Foundation (1986–1993); former executive director of the Citizens Education Center in Seattle (1983–1986); former executive director and founder of the Chicago Panel on School Policy (1982–1983); former chair, founder, and chief lobbyist for Citizens for Fair School Funding in Seattle (1976–1982)
Patricia Anderson, principal, Sullivan High School
Sheila Castillo, coordinator, Chicago Association of Local School Councils; LSC member, Inter-American Magnet School
Jessica Clarke, education director, Chicago Urban League
Dolores Cross, president, Chicago State University
James Deanes, president, Parent/Community Council; LSC member, Armstrong Elementary School
Lafayette Ford, LSC member, Lucy Flower Vocational High School; former chairman, Chicago School Board Nominating Commission
Adela Coronado-Greeley, teacher and founder, Inter-American Magnet School; 1993–4 Illinois Teacher of the Year
Patricia Harvey, executive assistant to the general superintendent (1993–5), chief accountability officer (1995–7), Chicago Public Schools; former principal, Hefferan Elementary School
Brenda Heffner, director, Chicago office of the Illinois State Board of Education; former principal, Haven Middle School in Evanston, and Haugan, Smyser, and Beethoven Elementary Schools in Chicago
Sokoni Karanja, executive director and founder, Centers for New Horizons; 1993 MacArthur Fellow; former member of the board of directors, Woods Charitable Fund (1987–1992
Peter Martinez, senior program officer for education, John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation (1991–2001); convenor of the Alliance for Better Chicago Schools (ABCs) coalition (Spring 1988)
Coretta McFerren, executive director, West Side Schools and Communities Organizing for Restructuring and Planning (WSCORP); former staff coordinator and chief spokeswoman, People's Coaltion for Educational Reform (PCER)
Eric Outten, co-chairman, Schools First; LSC member, Hirsch High School and Burnside Elementary School
Migdalia "Millie" Rivera, executive director, Latino Institute
Joan Jeter-Slay, associate director, Designs for Change; former member, Interim Chicago School Board (1989–1990)
Bernard Spillman, consultant, the Comer Project; former assistant superintendent for academic and vocational instructional support, Chicago Public Schools; former principal, Westinghouse Vocational High Schoo
Lynn St. James, co-director, Chicago Forum for School Change—an affiliate of the Coalition of Essential Schools (1994–5); chief education officer, Chicago Public Schools (1995–7); former principal of Lindblom High School, King High School and Pirie Elementary School
Carol Swinney, policy advisor, Office of the Mayor
Beverly Tunney, president, Chicago Principals Association; principal, Healy Elementary Schoo
Deborah Lynch-Walsh, director, Chicago Teachers Union Quest Center (1992–5); teacher, Marquette Elementary School (1995–2001); president, Chicago Teachers Union (2001–4)
sorry, no time to make the list more legible.
Bea
Susan
Susan
I'm sorry Bea, I think I am adult ADD ( unfortunately I'm not joking) all those names and all I see is "wah, wah, wah, wah, wah"
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