Strippers, Gambling Near Ground Zero

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Thu, 08-19-2010 - 9:37pm


For Strippers Near Ground Zero, It’s Business as Usual Amid Mosque Uproar






By Andrew Grossman



Flickr user niznoz

New York Dolls, one of two strip clubs located within blocks of the World Trade Center site.

After the World Trade Center towers fell, a stripper named Chris went to volunteer in the recovery effort for the Red Cross.

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Cynic: a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.---Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary.

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Fri, 08-20-2010 - 11:02am

Thanks! The whole article from which it the piece linked to was helpful to me in other ways as well.

For ex.:

"A major piece of misinformation is the idea that government has a role in stopping the center, which is patterned on the $85 million Jewish Community Center on the upper West side. The project is a completely as-of-right project, meaning it requires no governmental approvals."

"At one of the meetings, the word “mosque” was used, and that gave a hook to the project’s deepest objectors. It took off in the right-wing blogosphere and in the tabloids, and questions were raised about Rauf’s political beliefs and whether he renounces terror groups like Hamas."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41238_Page3.html#ixzz0x9sz6VQn

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Fri, 08-20-2010 - 11:10am
Good point :)
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Fri, 08-20-2010 - 11:11am

Regarding the renouncing of Hamas, I posted this earlier, but it was in a longer FAQ.

http://www.cordobainitiative.org/?q=content/frequently-asked-questions

“Imam Feisal has not condemned Hamas”

Imam Feisal has always condemned terrorism (see his 1995 book “What’s Right With Islam is What’s Right with America” and his hundreds of speeches). Hamas is both a political movement and a terrorist organization. Hamas commits atrocious acts of terror. Imam Feisal has forcefully and consistently condemned all forms of terrorism, including those committed by Hamas, as un-Islamic. In his book, he even went so far as to include a copy of the Fatwa issued after 9/11 by the most respected clerics of Egypt defining the 9/11 attack as an un-Islamic act of terror and giving permission to Muslims in the U.S. armed forces to fight against those who committed this act of terror. Imam Feisal included this in his book to prove that terrorism must be fought even if Muslims have to fight fellow Muslims to stop it.

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Fri, 08-20-2010 - 1:34pm

Unbelievable!

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Fri, 08-20-2010 - 1:38pm

ITA

-------------- The more recent claim of the anti-mosque crowd is that it is disrespectful to the 9-11 survivors/families for a mosque to be so close to ground zero. People praying can't be any more disrespectful than lap dances, porn, and gambling.

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Fri, 08-20-2010 - 1:50pm

----------Indirectly it is related to the Muslim extremists that caused 9/11. The 100 million to build the center may also be achieved from donations from Saudi Arabia and Iran, as noted in a previous article posted.

I'm getting confused....is this a disrespect for the location thing or is it not....Because if it boils down to fear that it may become a hotbed of terrorism, then it doesn't really matter if they move the venue a thousand miles away. Those pretending it's all about respect for the victims of 9/11 will be just as unhappy and fearful as they are now.

-----Can you please show me where the strippers and gamblers are indirectly related?

Unless you think lap dances are a great way to honour the dead, it is related to the whole 'disrespect' argument. Then we are simply left with fear and prejudice again and are back to square one.

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Fri, 08-20-2010 - 1:56pm

Yes, and if I recall, they went ahead with the meeting anyway.

I find it ironic that on one hand you demand to know if that person is an expert on what muslims are thinking, then turn around and make assumuptions based upon what you imagine muslims are thinking.


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Registered: 01-28-2009
Fri, 08-20-2010 - 1:58pm

----Once again, the US was attacked in the name of Islam.

Yeah, and some people bomb clinics and shoot up churches in the name of Jesus....your point...

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Fri, 08-20-2010 - 2:00pm

-----Do you have information as to why they would name the place Cordoba?

There is tons of info and speculation on that in the other thread.

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Fri, 08-20-2010 - 2:01pm

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I don't think we ever truly left square one. Oh, there were attempts, but those are all falling flat.