Subsidized healthcare

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Registered: 10-26-2003
Subsidized healthcare
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Sat, 09-20-2008 - 1:12pm

i'm starting a new thread because this is buried somewhere else.

another poster referred to "subsidized healthcare." this article is old but raises important questions about who pays for what and who has access.

http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/full/129/6/514

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State funding, Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, and HIPAA make up a subsidized system that targets specific needy groups and may be a gradual approach to U.S. health care coverage for all citizens. For now, however, it seems that anyone who knows the ins and outs of the health care system can obtain health care regardless of whether he or she has insurance.

We pay for community outreach programs, state and federal programs, Medicaid, Medicare, and tax breaks for large corporations. However, although the movement toward a national health insurance system is inching forward, it would immediately halt if people saw a paycheck deduction labeled "tax money to fund health insurance for those who do not have it.>>

the points that resonate for me:

-Those who oppose higher taxes also seem uninterested in finding out how much the lack of health care costs; illness and disease are costlier in the long run.

why don't we place more emphasis on prevention? why do we think paying for prevention is wasteful?

- Any investment in guaranteed health care, even if just for children, would have an invaluable return.

especially, why do we think prevention of disease in children is wasteful?

- The hidden subsidized medical system is already costing taxpayers, but Americans are more willing to pay for it because the taxes are hidden in the federal income tax that is deducted from each worker's paycheck... it would immediately halt if people saw a paycheck deduction labeled "tax money to fund health insurance for those who do not have it."

(assuming they are talking about specifying how much of your tax dollar goes to Medicare/Medicaid) ARE we so opposed to spending money to help those who are not covered - when they do not have other means and did not choose to reject those means?

-it seems that anyone who knows the ins and outs of the health care system can obtain health care regardless of whether he or she has insurance.

how many know the ins and outs? i don't because i don't need it. but why does it require a special knowledge? when you are sick, why can't the system be more transparent - especially for those who "fall through the cracks"?

Bea

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Registered: 09-15-2008
Sun, 09-21-2008 - 3:50am

<< Delay for how long?

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sun, 09-21-2008 - 4:09am

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I won't speak for him, there are a few reasons that I want that however.


First, we need the low risk people in the insurance pool in order to keep the prices down for everyone.

 


 


I disagree with you, but I'm pretty sure

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Registered: 08-30-2004
Sun, 09-21-2008 - 9:54am

"There is a lot more on it than that. Something like 95% of all ovaries removed due to "cyst of unknown nature" are found to be harmless.


Typically the entire ovary is removed. They don't just remove the cyst. Too likely that if it "were" cancer that the cells be spilled out into other areas, not to mention the cyst is likely embedded in the ovary (they're not just easily detachable) and thus the more common course of action is to remove the whole thing. I've done a lot of research on this and I've also got personal sources of information. "


To make a statement like that, I'm afraid you're going to have to show proof - REAL proof.

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Registered: 08-30-2004
Sun, 09-21-2008 - 9:56am

"I have to wait past 30, "


Well, lol, I'm certainly past that.

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Registered: 08-30-2004
Sun, 09-21-2008 - 9:58am

"Don't women get routine cervical cancer screenings when they have a yearly exam"


I thought you were one of the ones saying you didn't need a yearly exam?

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Sun, 09-21-2008 - 10:09am

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I disagree with you, but I'm pretty sure

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Registered: 08-30-2004
Sun, 09-21-2008 - 10:09am

"are you referring to obama's healthcare plan? i know he is mandating healthcare for children, but i couldnt find on his website where he is requiring it for adults"


He's not.

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Registered: 08-30-2004
Sun, 09-21-2008 - 10:11am

"He also wants to make it "pay or play" for employers.

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Sun, 09-21-2008 - 10:15am

"Employer Contribution: Employers that do not offer or make a meaningful contribution to the cost of quality health coverage for their employees will be required to contribute a percentage of payroll toward the costs of the national plan. Small businesses will be exempt from this requirement, and will receive a new Small Business Health Tax Credit that helps reduce health care costs for small businesses. "


I guess I should have read ahead - you offer your proof here.

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Sun, 09-21-2008 - 10:21am

"And honestly, I don't remember a single woman in college having their own insurance, myself included.

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