Things that make you go hmmmm

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Things that make you go hmmmm
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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 5:41pm

This one has me....on one hand I believe in freedom of religion and I am not a person to judge what is religion and what is not, but on a school dress code, we could end up with a group "making up" a religion of say....the trench coat believers and they could all say that they are free to wear the big black trench coats and such....that Columbine really put "dress codes" around our country into play.



My thoughts....what are yours?



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_rel_piercing_church

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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 5:48pm
Family is nothing more than trouble-making. The rule is reasonable and in no way prevents her from practicing her "religion". It's ridiculous.

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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 5:49pm

I think it's a perfect example of what happens when you allow any kind of religious symbols on public schools. Then the school gets the job of deciding what religion is valid and what is not. The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster would be a PERFECT example of what happens when you try to insert religion into public schools.
Either all religions and their practices are accepted, or they are not.
When you try to make one religion accepted it will ultimately lead to lots of other religions seeking the same validity. And hence this story here.
My take on this girl's case. If other religions and their practices are recognized, then hers should be too. As in if others can wear crosses or whatever, she should be able to have her nose ring.

My solution is simple. Keep all religions out of public schools. Problem solved.

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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 5:55pm

"As in if others can wear crosses or whatever, she should be able to have her nose ring."



Then really it is not about religion but they should say no jewelry of any kind, not just no body piercing.



Course for me, I would go with it.

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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 6:07pm
Hey that's just like my argument about keeping marriage out of government.

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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 6:19pm
Agreed! We have a no jewelry policy at the local high school. Religion is no excuse. No jewelry is permitted. Apparently some girls were fighting and pulling other girls dangling earrings right out ripping the ear lobe. The no jewelry rule should be enforced regardless of whether or not religion is involved.
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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 7:15pm
If the rules was, no jewelry even for religious purposes, I would agree that this girl is in the wrong.
However that is not the rule the school. The article you linked stated that if this girl were Hindu for example her nose ring would be recognized as a valid religious symbol.
However since the school will not recognize her religion, that is why she is not allowed to wear it.
The school is going about this all wrong. They should not be in the business of recognizing any religion. Be it through jewelry or any other form.
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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 7:16pm
Right - the term "religious symbol" is too vague and subjective to either ban or permit.
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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 8:54pm

Hmmm... Well, her religion is legitimate whether the School District wants to believe that or not, so, IMO, she should be allowed to keep the nose ring. I think the school shot themselves in the foot by making the comment "if she was Hindu or Muslim then it would be different"- If they would allow her to wear the nose ring under a religion they "recognize", then they don't really have any grounds for not allowing her to wear it simply because her religion is not "real" to them.



This does open up a door for people to say "well, carrying a knife is part of my religion so I can under the first amendment.." <---- not comparable to this scenario at all, I know, but you never know these days... But does bring a valid point to no religion in schools period... perhaps. Whats fair for one, should be fair

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