For those of you voting for Bush...

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Registered: 02-19-2004
For those of you voting for Bush...
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Tue, 10-26-2004 - 5:17pm
I have two questions:

1) Do you care that we went to war in Iraq under false pretenses or do you have an explanation that makes it okay in your mind that there were no weapons of mass destruction?

2) Does it bother you that during the debates, President Bush couldn't specify one mistake he's made during his presidency? Or do you truly believe that he is without reproach in every action he's made since being in office?

Just curious what the viewpoints are...

Julie

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iVillage Member
Registered: 10-23-2004
Tue, 10-26-2004 - 5:45pm
I am a Bush supporter for many reasons not just the war. But in regards to the war, the accepted intelligence worldwide was that Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. Congress voted to authorize the use of force based on that intelligence. One can only use evidence available at the time to make decisions. It is easy to look back and say we should have done this or that instead. And weapons of mass destruction have been found. Sarin gas was found - enough to kill hundreds of thousands of people. And there is plenty evidence that says that Hussein had plans to produce further weapons of mass destruction and if you recall in the last 12 years, he has used weapons of mass destruction on his own people. That is fact.

And as for the debates, do you really think that Bush is going give a rundown of things he would like to have done differently? All this would do is give the opposing candidate an upper hand. And in fairness, I would not expect John Kerry to list his mistakes either. Of course, he wasn't asked what mistakes he had made in the Senate. And truthfully, I don't think it was an appropriate question anyway. That is the kind of question that there is no good answer to.

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-19-2003
Tue, 10-26-2004 - 5:50pm

1) Do you care that we went to war in Iraq under false pretenses or do you have an explanation that makes it okay in your mind that there were no weapons of mass destruction?

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Tue, 10-26-2004 - 5:55pm

1) Do you care that we went to war in Iraq under false pretenses or do you have an explanation that makes it okay in your mind that there were no weapons of mass destruction?

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-27-2004
Tue, 10-26-2004 - 7:03pm
In the first place, I don't believe we went to war under false pretenses.

The intelligence at the time, compiled not only from our intelligence agencies, but also from other countries', showed that SH had WMD. The fact that the intelligence was wrong does not negate what we (including Kerry) believed to be true at the time. For you to say we went to war under false pretenses assumes that Bush knew there were no WMD and lied about it. If that's your opinion, you're entitled to it, but it's not fact, which is what your question implies.

Additionally, the reason we know the pre-war intelligence was wrong is because we finally have access to look around and determine, with no interference or games from SH, that there are no WMD. Interviews with regime members, cross checked with documents obtained after the invasion, led to the conclusion that Iraq did not have WMD.

To answer your second question, no it doesn't bother me that Bush didn't list off any mistakes during the debate. That would have just been giving ammunition to Kerry and his supporters. To suggest that because it doesn't bother me, I think he's above reproach is ridiculous. It's either one or the other?

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-19-2003
Tue, 10-26-2004 - 7:15pm
Exactly!

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iVillage Member
Registered: 03-28-2003
Wed, 10-27-2004 - 5:40am

Excellent post!


I would add this about my own individual position:


I personally DO find evidence that Saddam had WMD. Why? Because HE USED THEM to gas thousands of his own


iVillage Member
Registered: 03-25-2003
Wed, 10-27-2004 - 6:46am

Just to be clear, the reports all stated POSSIBLE WMD.

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-25-2003
Wed, 10-27-2004 - 6:50am

I have seen that website before and find it horrible to look at.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-27-2004
Wed, 10-27-2004 - 8:06am
Iraq admitted to having chemical and biological weapons, and then was unable to account for them. I take an admission to having them as factual evidence to say Iraq had WMD.

One point that we all seem to have agreed upon is that we are sick of the negative ads used by both sides. I think that Bush was wise not to give Kerry anything else to use.

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-28-2003
Wed, 10-27-2004 - 3:13pm

Aren't those images sobering? Do they make you angry and sorroful as well? I find myself in tears and MAD when I look at those lives slaughtered and then think of the faulty, pervasive "Saddam did not have weapons of mass destruction" nonsense still inexplicably continuing to find resonance in some intelligent minds in this nation.


Your question - do I think it is the duty of Americans to go into any country that uses WMD on its own people? Short answer: Only if our duty is defined as the active protection American feedoms throughout the world and if our presence is neccessary to prevent catastrophic events from


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