Thoughts on Paul Ryan?

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Thoughts on Paul Ryan?
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Mon, 08-13-2012 - 9:54am

I'm kind of new to iVillage, so I hope I'm posting in the right place!

I was just wondering what you think about Romney's VP choice.  I don't know a lot about Paul Ryan, so I don't have much of an opinion yet. 

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Registered: 01-21-2006
Mon, 08-13-2012 - 4:27pm

Welcome..:smileyhappy:    

 I like Paul Ryan. I think is was a bold pick for Romney. I like Ryan's fiscal conservative attitude and the way he keeps winning his democrat district, even though he is a conservative. I think maybe he can bring the state of WI over to red on his coattails!

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Registered: 03-02-2009
Mon, 08-13-2012 - 4:32pm

He's a solid conservative, very smart, knows a lot about the budget. Basically, the exact opposite of Joe Biden. 

I was listening to liberal talk radio today, and they are, well, hard to figure. I've heard them say stuff like "he's the gift that keeps giving", "they are popping champagne corks", etc... all the canned responses that have nothing to do with Ryan. They talk about him with the required forced laughter, as if it was a huge blunder of a choice. Of course, they do that with any choice. At this point, they have now broken into the required personal attacks on Sarah Palin, since Ryan is off limits right now. All this from the party with Joe Biden as VP. Now, that's something to laugh about.

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Registered: 01-21-2006
Mon, 08-13-2012 - 5:01pm

When asked about the budget. Romney explained that they, he and Ryan, would be going with the budget Romney has proposed. I really liked Ryan's speech, given right here in my home town...:smileyhappy: It sounded very Reagan like to me.

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Registered: 05-13-2009
Mon, 08-13-2012 - 8:36pm
<he keeps winning his democrat district,>

And how do you make this conclusion? He replaced a 2 term republican representative, Mark Neuman, in 1998. The district voted for GWB 2004 and Obama in 2008. At best, this can only be described as a swing district and his 2008 coattails were pretty anemic.

I think Paul Ryan is intellectually dishonest. He is not a fiscal conservative; he voted for TARP, Medicare Part D, two unfunded wars, and the auto bailout.

His budget doesn't "theoretically" balance until 2040, with very suspect revenue projections based on the 30 year evidence that trickle down does not actually trickle down.

Go ryan/romney, keeping the "wry in" 2012 election politics!

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Registered: 03-02-2009
Tue, 08-14-2012 - 12:10am

I'm not really caring much about a "warm" candidate. I'm more concerned about stopping someone that wants to fundamentally change America. We need to get back to the fundamentals that we have, like the Constitution. We currently have someone that wants to break from the foundations of this country, built by the founders (yeah, they build that).

I think I'd rather stick to what they built, than the "vision" of utopia that Obama is using to play all his supporters. The man has been so God awful as a president, he dares not mention his record. Instead, we are supposed to care about his lies about Romney's career (more successful that Obama could ever dream of).

You go to factcheck.org and it's jamb packed with Obama's BS. Of course, they continue to run those ads, they don't have much of a choice. They know most people never see that they are false.

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Registered: 01-21-2006
Tue, 08-14-2012 - 8:39am

I make my conclusions by looking at facts/numbers.

In 2008 Paul Ryan won his district by getting 63.97% of the total vote.( 231,009 votes to 130,198 votes)  His district voted for Obama by a 4% margin, thus putting it in the blue column (democrat).

In 2010 Paul Ryan  won his district by getting 68.21% of the total vote. (170,819 votes to 83,808 votes)

Perhaps some may call those numbers anemic?

 

Ryan's budget proposal is based on solid fiscally conservative principles. It's been called by David Brooks, "“the most comprehensive and most courageous budget reform proposal any of us have seen in our lifetimes.”

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Registered: 05-13-2009
Tue, 08-14-2012 - 9:09am
In 2004, Ryan's district voted for Bush 54% to 46%. Facts/numbers don't support that Ryan is based in a Democratic district.

IMO, David Brooks is a political hack with no economic policy credentials. On the other hand, David Stockman, OMB director for Reagan, does not have a very positive view of Ryan's proposal:

"Mr. Ryan’s plan is devoid of credible math or hard policy choices. And it couldn’t pass even if Republicans were to take the presidency and both houses of Congress. Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan have no plan to take on Wall Street, the Fed, the military-industrial complex, social insurance or the nation’s fiscal calamity and no plan to revive capitalist prosperity — just empty sermons. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/14/opinion/paul-ryans-fairy-tale-budget-plan.html?_r=1&smid=tw-share



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Registered: 01-21-2006
Tue, 08-14-2012 - 10:26am

We could go back and look at whom the district voted for in the 1980's, but it's widely accepted that we get a better picture of today by looking at the most recent facts and statistics. Ryan's district clearly went into the blue column in 2008. To argue otherwise is useless.

David Stockman? Wasn't he indicted for defrauding his investors a few years back? I was unaware that anyone still printed his opinion pieces?  NYT........doesn't surprise me. I wonder what Bernard Madoff thinks..:smileyhappy:

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Registered: 01-14-2011
Tue, 08-14-2012 - 11:22am

I love this choice!!!  It will get this election back on track discussing the real issues that we need to focus on.....the economy, the debt and entitlement reform instead of how rich Romney is and that he somehow "murdered" a woman. These are not the issues that Obama wants to discuss because Obama has a horrible record to run on regarding the economy. Democrats are salivating over this choice, but I think it will bite them in the arse when people realize that the only ones proposing change and solutions to our economic problems are Romney/Ryan.

Paul Ryan had the courage to put forth a controversial yet realistic and honest plan to get our country out of this mess but I have not seen ANY plan from the Democrats to counter this proposal.  All they can do is try to demonize Ryan and his plan, but their ideas are to leave entitlements as is. Medicare is unsustainable as it stands today and changes need to happen, but Democrats refuse to address this issue. There are Democrats who actually praised Ryan and his budget, even Obama who said he trusted Ryan to work on budget issues and calling Ryan a patriot who wants to solve a real problem. And then there is Clinton's COS who criticized Democrats for not telling the truth about Ryan's plan. 

I am glad that some in the media are beginning to call Democrats out on their distortion and lies about Ryan's budget, especially about how people over 55 will no longer have the Medicare that they have known. This is false. Putting Ryan on the ticket is bringing out the truth of how Democrats distort and lie about the realities we are facing in this economic crisis and I look forward to having the debate focus on these economic issues.

 

 

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Registered: 05-03-2011
Tue, 08-14-2012 - 11:27am
Since when is David Brooks an economist (or anything close)? What do economists actually say about the Ryan Plan?

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