Thoughts on Paul Ryan?

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Thoughts on Paul Ryan?
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Mon, 08-13-2012 - 9:54am

I'm kind of new to iVillage, so I hope I'm posting in the right place!

I was just wondering what you think about Romney's VP choice.  I don't know a lot about Paul Ryan, so I don't have much of an opinion yet. 

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Registered: 05-03-2011
Wed, 08-15-2012 - 2:27pm

*eye roll*

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Wed, 08-15-2012 - 2:39pm
I never said that Stockman was an economist. ;-)
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Wed, 08-15-2012 - 2:42pm
For some reason, you seem to think that using some drugs as a teen made him a "drugged up student." Where are you getting that info from?
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Wed, 08-15-2012 - 3:15pm

The conversation was about Brooks and Stockman. You stated,"Since when is David Brooks an economist (or anything close) and went on to write......" Hmmm...who am I going to choose to believe? Economists who say something I don't like or a non-economist who writes something that I like? I think I'll choose the economists. "

So, if you were not referring to the only other name that had been mentioned with Brooks, which was Stockman, then exactly what economist were you referring to, who was never mentioned?

 Obviously you were talking about Stockman. He is the only other "potential economist" mentioned in the thread up to that point.  

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Wed, 08-15-2012 - 4:19pm
Ilukrat can defend herself, but I'm the only one who specifically brought Stockman into the discussion.

Krat's comments specifically denigrated Brooks and generally referred to economists who do not agree with the Ryan budget. Notice krat's use of the plural, "economists", in her comments to you, never a singular economist.

There are many well-known economists, e.g. Krugman and Stiglitz, who have scathingly written about Ryan's budget.

So there is nothing obvious.
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Registered: 01-21-2006
Wed, 08-15-2012 - 4:20pm

I found Biden's remarks yesterday, in my home state of Virginia  to be racist. When one of the top leaders of the democratic party uses that kind of racist rhetoric on the stump, then it only stands to reason that those who support him, his ticket and his party may hold similar views. It's brought up regularly by many on the left because it's at the core of what they think and believe. Racist thoughts and excuses don't jump to the forefront of the minds of those who aren't thinking about it or measuring others using a color prism. (at least that's been my experience)

 

ETA: Now watch..you'll see those on the left with similar thoughts/views as those portrayed by Biden try to excuse the racist remarks away rather than just call him out for making them.

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Wed, 08-15-2012 - 4:28pm
cshell_sonny wrote:

The conversation was about Brooks and Stockman. You stated,"Since when is David Brooks an economist (or anything close) and went on to write......" Hmmm...who am I going to choose to believe? Economists who say something I don't like or a non-economist who writes something that I like? I think I'll choose the economists. "

So, if you were not referring to the only other name that had been mentioned with Brooks, which was Stockman, then exactly what economist were you referring to, who was never mentioned?

 Obviously you were talking about Stockman. He is the only other "potential economist" mentioned in the thread up to that point.  

How incredibly rude to presume ("obviously you were talking about Stockman") what I thinking.  Heck, even another poster jumped in to remind you who brought up Stockman and it wasn't me. 

FYI, there were many real economists who thought that Ryan's Plan was crap including Jeffrey Sachs, Paul Krugman, Joseph Stiglitz.

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Wed, 08-15-2012 - 4:30pm
Thanks.
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Wed, 08-15-2012 - 4:33pm

With all due respect.....I never saw any other "economists" mentioned. So you are suggesting that she was writing about "phantom economists", but  no one in particular, those who "might" not agree with Ryan's plan, but she wasn't informed enough to mention them by name? 

 Okay, she was obviously talking about Krugman and Stiglitz. Not sure why I didn't pick up on that before???????    :smileywink:  :smileywink:

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Wed, 08-15-2012 - 4:34pm

When I first heard the Fox News take on it, "...put y'all back in chains, " I thought that sounded racist. However, it being Fox News, I decided to look for the context and then saw  what he said before it. I also noticed that Biden was using the same rhetoric that Romney has been using about unchaining Wall Street, so this was nothing but another fauxrage trying to make Biden appear racist. Nice try, but most people (people on the right and left) saw right through that little tactic once they got the context.

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