Thoughts on Paul Ryan?

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Thoughts on Paul Ryan?
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Mon, 08-13-2012 - 9:54am

I'm kind of new to iVillage, so I hope I'm posting in the right place!

I was just wondering what you think about Romney's VP choice.  I don't know a lot about Paul Ryan, so I don't have much of an opinion yet. 

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Tue, 08-21-2012 - 12:14pm

While it's understandable that the economy weighs heavily on the minds of many, failing to consider a candidate's or a party's stance on other issues would be a colossal and possibly catastrophic blunder. 

Todd Akin is NOT a Missouri senator, though he's running for that office.  His words matter because they indicate his mindset.  Given the actions of other GOP congresspeople, there is reason to believe that the rights of women to reproductive choice are being attacked. Paul Ryan was one of the most active.  http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/08/20/what-does-ryan-believe-about-abortion  IF the GOP dominates both houses of Congress as well as the White House (and an Akin victory was considered to be part of that strategy), then women could see their roles revert back to those of the fifties. 

But that would only happen if women pay no attention to any issues but those associated with economic policy.   See ladies?  There's nothing threatening about that big wooden horse.  No attack on your body or rights to control it until after you've cast your votes for conservatives and opened the gate.......  The Cassandras among us know better. We see the actions of the past, compare them to the words of the present and come to the conclusion that there's a definite disconnect! 

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 01-21-2006
Tue, 08-21-2012 - 11:57am

"Do show us the basis for your claim that "consumers are not buying". "

The claim that "consumers are not buying" was actually "claimed" by the poster to whom I was replying That was her assertion. I was simply opining about her assertion, so perhaps your question would be more correctly directed at her.

"Pffffffft. There was NO attempt to suppress military voting. That arrant nonsense was trumpeted by conservative outlets."

The democrats can try to spin it any way they want, but they certainly were trying to reduce the amount of time given to military voters to cast their votes. A study done by the nonpartisan Military Voters Protection Project found that in 2008 less than 20% of 2.5 million military voters successfully voted by absentee ballot, clearly demonstrating that they could benefit from the additional time Ohio was allotting them. It is a fact that on July 17, the Obama for America Campaign, the Democratic National Committee and the Ohio Democratic Party filed suit in  Ohio, a swing state, to strike down part of the state's law governing voting by members of the military that gives them extra time to cast their ballots.

 

Romney's time at Bain did not have to do with "gutting" companies? Where did you get than information? According to the WSJ:

"Bain was investing in "riskier deals," said Steven N. Kaplan, a finance professor at the University of Chicago's Booth School of Business. "For every one that went bankrupt, they had one that was a screaming success. The overall effect was terrific performance" for the firm's investors.

Were all of the businesses successful? Of course not, to expect a 100% success rate would be foolish of us. However, a few of the businesses were/are very successful, like Staples and Domino's Pizza and created thousands of jobs for people. I wonder how many private sector jobs Obama has been responsible for creating during his pre political career? The answer to that question may give us an idea of whether or not he has a clue about what it takes to get it done and why we are stuck with unemployment numbers over 8%.

 "As for "small businesses not hiring", that's another sweeping statement. Prove it."

 That can be summed in one number: 8.3% unemployment rate......with a U6 rate of nearly 15%

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Registered: 09-08-2006
Tue, 08-21-2012 - 11:25am
Why does the GOP always use the talking point that business is holding on to its money to see if they will get more tax cuts?

 

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Registered: 09-08-2006
Tue, 08-21-2012 - 11:23am
Romney wants to "pile" on more debt with defense spending and bigger tax cuts. How do fiscal people feel about that plan?

 

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Registered: 09-08-2006
Tue, 08-21-2012 - 11:20am
The market crash caused this problem. The trouble with Romney is he wants to "streamline" some of the protections we have in place. Because he hasn't been transparent with his policies, my guess is consumer protection. Sadly, we still don't have enough protections! It's unsettling to think this could happen again.

 

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Registered: 09-08-2006
Tue, 08-21-2012 - 11:10am
Agree. Depending on the stock market as a means for retirement is a gamble.

 

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Registered: 09-08-2006
Tue, 08-21-2012 - 11:09am
I'm not sure if those would be set up the same way as defined benefits.

 

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Registered: 09-08-2006
Tue, 08-21-2012 - 11:06am
I think the baby boomers may be the last generation to see company pensions for the most part. Not many companies are giving defined pensions. Many states are now putting public workers into contribution plans and this is the way things are heading. I doubt the next generation will see the same type of comfortable retirement. Those are the people Ryan's voucher plan will effect. People who ironically may need more protection.

 

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Tue, 08-21-2012 - 10:42am

Pffffffft.  There was NO attempt to supress military voting.  That arrant nonsense was trumpeted by conservative outlets. 

At issue is the legality of an Ohio law cutting three days out of the early-voting period for everyone except members of the armed forces and Ohio citizens living overseas......

As state lawmakers debated changes to election laws, the Ohio Association of Election Officials endorsed the idea of cutting the three final early-voting days, those just before Election Day, contending they needed the extra time over the weekend to prepare for Tuesday voting.

Democrats say it smacks of political manipulation to restrict in-person voting for most people while giving service members extra time to cast a ballot, even if they are not stationed abroad. They want the three days added back for everyone.  http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/166223166.html?refer=y

Too bad your awareness doesn't appear to extend to the role Congress played in jockeying and chivvying for political gain at the expense of the nation's wellbeing.  That "failed record" was not just Obama's. 

Again, if conservatives are really concerned about debt, they would look at all measures, including the raising of taxes to reduce the debt, not just the systematic evisceration of social safety nets and environmental safeguards.

Do show us the basis for your claim that "consumers are not buying".  Looks to me like they're being a bit reluctant to buy homes but that's understandable given the volatility of the housing market, which BTW, started before Obama took office.  As for "small businesses not hiring", that's another sweeping statement.  Prove it.  My DH is an SBO who hired three more employees this past month.  Even with the additional hires, the company is extremely busy. 

As for the last sentence that one of the candidates is "a man who realizes the importance small businesses have in our economy and has experience in that arena", I assume you refer to Romney.  Bain Capital isn't a small business itself.  Seems that the interaction Romney had with small businesses while at Bain had to do with gutting companies if it was decided that investors would be better served by so doing.  Acting as hatchet men for corporate raiders, IOW.  With friends like that, what small business needs enemies?!    

 

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 01-21-2006
Tue, 08-21-2012 - 9:10am
"We'll have to see how Ryan's cosponsoring of the bill with Akin trying to redefine rape is going to look to the voters."
 
Most Americans are concerned about the economy, with greater than 50% saying that they are worse off than they were four years ago, not the misspoken words of a Missouri senator. I don't think the Obama campaign team is desperate enough to try to tie Romney and Ryan to the misspoken words of another man, but I guess we'll see whether or not they are?  To my knowledge, both Romney and Ryan immediately denounced the Akin statement, showing that his statements don't represent their views and beliefs.
 
I think there is an entire thread on this though for this discussion?
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