VP Debate: How much impact?

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VP Debate: How much impact?
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Tue, 10-05-2004 - 8:10pm
Who's watching Cheney and Edwards tonight, and does this debate have any impact on the big picture?

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Tue, 10-05-2004 - 9:47pm
I don't know...In the last election, I think it had a big impact, but this time I think alot of people are wanting a change, so I don't know. But then again...Most people don't like Bush or Kerry and do like Cheney and Edwards, so maybe it will make a big impact...personally, I'm watching the debate right now and am enjoying it much more than the one between Bush and Kerry.

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Tue, 10-05-2004 - 9:52pm
It's lively isn't it. I think Edwards is doing a great job of taking Cheney to task.

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Tue, 10-05-2004 - 9:59pm
How come he has yet to mention any plan of action he and Kerry would take if elected? Criticism is a pretty easy game to play frankly. Strangely absent appears to be an action plan of what they would do better and exactly how they plan to do it.~Lisa
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Tue, 10-05-2004 - 10:10pm
I think he has been quite specific about achieving international involvement in Iraq, keeping tax cuts for the middle class while raising taxes for the wealthy, reversing tax cuts for business that ship jobs overseas, etc.

What exactly don't you get?

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Tue, 10-05-2004 - 10:21pm
Maybe you can tell me how he plans to get international involvement, he hasn't been in the least bit specific from where I sit. Taxing is a no brainer because this is traditionally what democrats do.~Lisa
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Tue, 10-05-2004 - 10:28pm
Well the taxing is more of a no-brainer because of the record budget deficit but that's another conversation.

International involvement can be achieved by 1) giving it an honest effort, 2) having credibility, and 3) allowing other countries to participate in the reconstruction contracts.

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Tue, 10-05-2004 - 10:40pm
Yes, wars do cost money and under the Democratic plan the wealthy can pay the bill exclusively.

What in their opinion is an honest effort other than lip service? How will they gain credibility? Why should other countries who didn't participate in the war effort make money off of the reconstruction? Don't you think that if our country and those who participated in the war effort get a chance at reconstruction this may help the deficit situation or is the pat answer to not worry we'll just tax the wealthy.~Lisa

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Tue, 10-05-2004 - 11:35pm
What in their opinion is an honest effort other than lip service? ***How about listening to the experts (weapons inspectors, etc), talking with other heads of state, collaborating with other nations, and working with the UN (which may or may not be a legitimate means of getting things done but ignoring them really didn't help either).

How will they gain credibility? ***By being honest.

Why should other countries who didn't participate in the war effort make money off of the reconstruction? ***Because it's in their best interests not to have a civil war over there. And because it's stupid (and greedy) to think that we can (or should) do this by ourselves. Most of the globe perceives us a bunch of bullies and honestly, that's not an image that makes me proud.

Don't you think that if our country and those who participated in the war effort get a chance at reconstruction this may help the deficit situation or is the pat answer to not worry we'll just tax the wealthy. ***Ummm, no that wasn't my answer. I'm not interested in helping corporate CEO's achieve even more million dollar bonuses - that isn't my problem. I don't see any connection in how Halliburton and other similar operations are going to help solve the deficit problem. Strange that you try and make that connection. I think first of all, you shouldn't spend money that you don't have. Second, if you find yourself in debt you need to work harder to control spending and look for increased sources of revenue. Personally I think GWB was crazy to dole out the tax cuts he did and I'd gladly give mine back if it meant I lived in a more secure country.

Does that answer your question?

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Wed, 10-06-2004 - 7:38am
You may be comfortable putting our nation's security in the hands of the UN, I certainly am not considering they can't uphold their own resolutions.

Do you really think John Kerry will be honest?

What does letting other countries participate in the reconstuction have to do with civil war? Why is it greedy for us to do it ourselves? You do the work, you get the benefits. Of course the democratic way appears to be someone else does the work you(general) reap the benefits...;-)

I hate to break it to you but big businesses create jobs thus stimulating the economy. You don't think that Halliburton and these other businesses you seem to despise don't help our economy by providing jobs for people? When you find yourself in a deficit, it doesn't seem wise to me at least to give over reconstruction efforts to other coutries who didn't participate in the first place, in lieu of providing that revenue for your own country. ~Lisa

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Wed, 10-06-2004 - 9:23am

That's exactly right.

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