This is what happens

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This is what happens
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Wed, 08-18-2010 - 9:13pm

when you do not stop socialism in time.


http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/05/06-7


Greek Parliament Passes Austerity Bill

by Joanna Sugden


May 6, 2010



The Greek Parliament has passed a crucial austerity Bill to raise taxes, cut pensions and attempt to stop national debt spiralling as thousands of protestors massed outside the building.


The vote in favour of the stringent measures was needed to secure £93 billion in loans from the International Monetary Fund and other European states and came the day after similar protests turned violent, resulting in the deaths of three people

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Thu, 08-19-2010 - 6:56pm

Parhaps. But it's a very simple concept. Whichever system achieves the desired goal while placing the least cost to society should be the one that is supported.

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Thu, 08-19-2010 - 5:25pm
OK, you have a very idiosyncratic view of political systems.

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Thu, 08-19-2010 - 5:17pm

"Well, then I guess all countries with a public school system are socialist states."


Socialism isn't a switch and

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Thu, 08-19-2010 - 4:05pm
Well, then I guess all countries with a public school system are socialist states.

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Thu, 08-19-2010 - 2:59pm

"Many Americans consider universal health care "socialism,"


All governments controlled social systems are socialistic, which explains why UNC and our current healthcare reform law are examples of socialism.


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Thu, 08-19-2010 - 1:23pm

No, it really doesn't and that is before we even start on the whole discussion of just what exactly "socialism" is supposed to be.

Many Americans consider universal health care "socialism," whereas people in more civilized places consider it a given, and so it goes.


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Men can only be happy when they do not assume that the object of life is happiness.
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Thu, 08-19-2010 - 1:19pm

Granted there are specifics that apply to each case. But I believe the rule holds.

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Thu, 08-19-2010 - 4:57am

I live in Greece, and I hate to tell you that several extremely well-functioning European countries with healthy economies have far higher taxes than Greece.

The problem in Greece is complicated and has more to do with post-colonialism than with "socialism." All the same, Georgie-boy seems to be doing ok with the restructuring, difficult as it is, and some of us are working hard to help him.


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Men can only be happy when they do not assume that the object of life is happiness.
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Thu, 08-19-2010 - 1:35am
Who told ya????