Who watched the Saddleback forum?

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Who watched the Saddleback forum?
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Sat, 08-16-2008 - 10:08pm

If you don't like Fox News, then you probably didn't watch it..but who out there did? I did, and I thought it was awesome! I was very impressed with John McCain's straight, direct answers.


For anyone that didn't know what this was..Rev. Rick Warren author of A Purpose Driven Life,

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Mon, 08-18-2008 - 2:07pm

"Whatever happened to the separation of church and state? I am appalled that the candidates (I am an Obama supporter) would even submit (pander) themselves to such a forum. Besides, McCain went in there with a definite edge - mega-churches comprise most of the Republican "base", and Faux News (as everyone knows) is the media mouthpiece of that base."


This had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with church & state and I don't see that either candidate was "pandering" to said forum.


As far as Fox news goes (and whether or not you care to believe it they ARE fair and balanced - but you probably don't know that because you don't ever watch) I say thank goodness that base has someone in their corner since the "other" base has PMSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, The New York Times, Newsweek and a dozen or more others I could mention.




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Registered: 02-27-2008
Mon, 08-18-2008 - 3:52pm

The church sold tickets to the event to the tune of somewhere between $2.5 million and $10 million. While some (perhaps most) of that money goes toward things like security and the costs of hosting the event, the rest the church is free to spend as it wishes.

Seems to me the candidates just did a big fund raiser for that particular church.

Rose

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Mon, 08-18-2008 - 8:20pm

For those that think Pastor's get paid too much money, yes, this is their calling, but most pastors (except for the really big Mega churches) get a very small amount considering that they are "on call" pretty much 24/7.

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Registered: 06-23-2008
Mon, 08-18-2008 - 8:26pm
I ammended what I said about them not getting paid. It works for my church (and our Bishops are on 24/7) but not all churches. I do not think men of God should become millionaries off of doing what they call "God's Work",
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Mon, 08-18-2008 - 11:05pm

>>FYI: Rick Warren actually reverse tithes all his earnings. That means he gives away 90% to others in need.<<


He must have some pretty serious earnings.

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Registered: 05-29-2003
Tue, 08-19-2008 - 5:11pm
Rose ? Do other events charge for tickets too?
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Tue, 08-19-2008 - 5:57pm

I watched it on CNN Sunday night. I thought it was great. Senator McCain was very upfront and honest. I thought he was very straight forward and easy to follow. On the other hand, Senator Obama was very wordy and I felt he never really answered the questions, but a few. And he was so hard to follow. At one point, I turned to my dh and asked if he remembered what the question was. Also, interviews are not his strong point. I think that once you take his written speech or "script" as I call it, he has no train of thought. And he forgets what he is supposed to say on that subject.


That was my take on the whole thing. But of course, I heard an anchor person say that they felt by far the winner was Obama.

 

 

  

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Registered: 06-23-2008
Tue, 08-19-2008 - 9:56pm

I think we all get what we want to get out of things like this. If we like Obama then Obama rocked if we like McCain the McCain rocked.

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Registered: 02-27-2008
Wed, 08-20-2008 - 1:30am

Most which do are fund-raiser for the candidate, not for a particular group -- if the Teacher's Association sponsored and moderated something like this, we could charge for the tickets but profit would go to the candidate.


I've never heard of something like this before -- where the candidates essentially did fund raising for a single church.


I'm sure the church is donating the money to its charitable efforts, but it still makes me twitchy.


We host events at our church -- its a brand new, LEED certified green building and gets lots of attention, and we have hosted lots of concerts for the local folklore society for example -- we to get to keep $5 of every ticket we sell at church for the church, be we don't charge the society for renting the church so we don't make much of a profit.

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Registered: 05-29-2003
Wed, 08-20-2008 - 9:31am

I agree with your assesment however I watched the debate not really wanting to vote for either McCain or Obama.. LOL


I actually preferred and was encouaraged by McCains performance.

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