Wow! Pat Buchanan OpEd

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Wow! Pat Buchanan OpEd
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Fri, 09-03-2010 - 9:40am

"In the first column, in mid-September 2002, I wrote:

"If Providence does not intrude, we will soon launch an imperial war on Iraq with all the 'On-to-Berlin!' bravado with which French poilus and British Tommies marched in August 1914. But this invasion will not be the cakewalk neoconservatives predict. ...

"(For) what comes after the celebratory gunfire when wicked Saddam is dead? ...

"With our MacArthur Regency in Baghdad, Pax Americana will reach apogee. But then the tide recedes, for the one endeavor at which Islamic peoples excel is expelling imperial powers by terror and guerrilla war. They drove the Brits out of Palestine and Aden, the French out of Algeria, the Russians out of Afghanistan, the Americans out of Somalia and Beirut, the Israelis out of Lebanon. ...

"The only lesson we learn from history is that we do not learn from history."

And so it came to pass. And as 90 months of war in Iraq come to an end for America, what was won? And what was lost?

To stampede us into war, the neocons told us that Saddam was tied to al Qaeda and had a role in 9/11, that he had VX gas, botulism, mustard gas, sarin and anthrax, and was acquiring nuclear weapons. What further proof must you have, demanded Condi Rice, "a mushroom cloud over an American city"?

The truth. Saddam had no tie to al Qaeda, no role in 9/11, no chemical weapons, no biological weapons, no nuclear program.

We attacked a nation that did not attack us, did not threaten us and did not want war with us — to strip it of weapons it did not have.

We were misled. We were deceived. We were lied to.

The cost: 4,400 dead, 35,000 wounded, $700 billion sunk. "

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20100903/cm_uc_crpbux/op_3315240

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Fri, 09-03-2010 - 9:50am
Yes, although I disagree with Buchanan about many things, he was 100% right from the get-go about the Iraq war.

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Fri, 09-03-2010 - 9:51am
Pat Buchanan has his conservative quirks, but he proved to be correct in this matter. On another board where I used to post, I would occasionally post pieces from Pat Buchanan. Those on the conservative side tended to then beat up the piece as being ill-informed, etc. Those are the same people who for the longest time said that Bush was a good conservative, then a few years later said that Bush wasn't a true conservative. We tend to filter these things through our own eyes/biases. In that same article, Buchanan goes on about how terrible the illegal immigration situation is in Arizona. Some of that I would disagree with.

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Registered: 04-09-2007
Fri, 09-03-2010 - 2:20pm

"The cost: 4,400 dead, 35,000 wounded, $700 billion sunk. "


And that's only on the American side.


An estimated 100K Iraqis were killed or wounded, an estimated 1M misplaced, a destroyed economy and infrastructure in that country that has yet to be rebuilt.


And that $700B number?

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Registered: 07-15-2010
Fri, 09-03-2010 - 2:41pm
Do you really feel it was all based on a lie?

>>Luck is what you call it when preparation meets opportunity<<
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Registered: 08-14-2010
Fri, 09-03-2010 - 3:03pm
Monday morning quarterbacking comes to mind.
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Registered: 04-09-2007
Fri, 09-03-2010 - 3:09pm

After all that we have learned about the timeline, about the faulty intelligence, about who knew what and with held what information, yes - I believe that there a plan in place to invade Iraq, that there was a narrative being created regarding WMD's (Saddams bluff helped that a bit), that 9/11 came along and diverted resources away from the plan, but ultimately helped the narrative.


I think if the Congress and the American people had been told the truth at the time - the truth that was KNOWN, not the truth they wanted us to hear -

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Registered: 10-30-2003
Fri, 09-03-2010 - 3:25pm

This is me just nodding away.

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Registered: 03-30-2007
Fri, 09-03-2010 - 3:25pm

I absolutely agree that it was a "Lie". My son called me on December 25, 2002. My exact words to him were "That SOB is taking us to war, isn't he?" My son could not reply. He was aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln.

Bush went after SH cause his Daddy was insulted by SH.

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Registered: 02-28-2010
Fri, 09-03-2010 - 4:06pm

and this quote always come to my mind.....


"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths," Barbara Bush said on ABC's "Good Morning America" on March 18, 2003. "Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"

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Registered: 02-24-2009
Fri, 09-03-2010 - 4:48pm
I don't "feel" it, I am quite certain of it. To be clear, however, I am not convinced that Bush personally knew that it was a lie.

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