Wow! Pat Buchanan OpEd

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Wow! Pat Buchanan OpEd
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Fri, 09-03-2010 - 9:40am

"In the first column, in mid-September 2002, I wrote:

"If Providence does not intrude, we will soon launch an imperial war on Iraq with all the 'On-to-Berlin!' bravado with which French poilus and British Tommies marched in August 1914. But this invasion will not be the cakewalk neoconservatives predict. ...

"(For) what comes after the celebratory gunfire when wicked Saddam is dead? ...

"With our MacArthur Regency in Baghdad, Pax Americana will reach apogee. But then the tide recedes, for the one endeavor at which Islamic peoples excel is expelling imperial powers by terror and guerrilla war. They drove the Brits out of Palestine and Aden, the French out of Algeria, the Russians out of Afghanistan, the Americans out of Somalia and Beirut, the Israelis out of Lebanon. ...

"The only lesson we learn from history is that we do not learn from history."

And so it came to pass. And as 90 months of war in Iraq come to an end for America, what was won? And what was lost?

To stampede us into war, the neocons told us that Saddam was tied to al Qaeda and had a role in 9/11, that he had VX gas, botulism, mustard gas, sarin and anthrax, and was acquiring nuclear weapons. What further proof must you have, demanded Condi Rice, "a mushroom cloud over an American city"?

The truth. Saddam had no tie to al Qaeda, no role in 9/11, no chemical weapons, no biological weapons, no nuclear program.

We attacked a nation that did not attack us, did not threaten us and did not want war with us — to strip it of weapons it did not have.

We were misled. We were deceived. We were lied to.

The cost: 4,400 dead, 35,000 wounded, $700 billion sunk. "

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20100903/cm_uc_crpbux/op_3315240

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Fri, 09-03-2010 - 4:50pm
Buchanan originally wrote the core of this in 2002, no Monday morning about it at all.

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Fri, 09-03-2010 - 4:53pm

I was told in February '02 that the war was a done deal. The only regret at the time was that they did not get to "do" Iran first.

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Edited 9/3/2010 4:55 pm ET by rollmops2009
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Fri, 09-03-2010 - 6:44pm
Except he, and many other people (not those in power) predicted that it would be unsuccessful, even if we won.

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Sat, 09-04-2010 - 1:46am

"Except he, and many other people (not those in power) predicted that it would be unsuccessful, even if we won."


That would depend on how you define success. It has been well-known

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Sat, 09-04-2010 - 2:23am

Do you really feel it was all based on a lie?


This wasn't directed at me... but yes, I do.

 

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Sat, 09-04-2010 - 4:58am
That was not the main motivation, although it may have been why the Pentagon finally, and reluctantly, went along with the plan.

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Sat, 09-04-2010 - 5:35am
I believe it was. The US has been chomping at the bit begging and buying access to the region with no success. Now they have one.
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Sat, 09-04-2010 - 7:38am
As I said, it may have motivated the Pentagon to go along, but there is no way this was the overarching rationale.

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Sat, 09-04-2010 - 8:46am

um, no... it was pretty predictable at the time. There were many inconsistencies in the administration's tall tale at the time, visible to anyone who was interested in looking behind the administration's story board. Pat Buchanan laid it on the line, but he wasn't the first or the only, and millions of Americans shared those concerns, dismissed by GWB as "irrelevant", with Fox leading the pack of liars. HC, senator from NY, jumped on the bandwagon because she wanted to build up political capital for a presidential run, thus losing any chance of a vote from me permanently. It's not only elephants that don't forget.

Deborah

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Sat, 09-04-2010 - 8:58am

You may be right. Funny that so many Americans did know. dh said he was tipped off because of the hysterical administration patter about "drones"...I don't recall his exact argument, but he's one of those geeks who knows what all the different kind of airplanes are, and he said that we didn't have the capability that a country that is always trying to steal our military secrets was being credited with...the claims were not credible. I was more convinced by the constant fearmonger spin stuff ... as soon as fear replaces reason, I know that I'm being sold a bill of goods. At that time, Iraq was basically a third world country, as a result of sanctions following the Gulf War...before Iraq had invaded Kuwait, it had a large middle class...at the time the US invaded Iraq in 2003, a majority of people were living in poverty, food and medicine were scare, most of its pre-war infrastructure still in a shambles. A country like that simply does not have the resources to engage a superpower halfway across the world in a war...about the best it can do is encourage stuff like tiling the portrait of GB senior on a hotel lobby entrance.

Deborah