2012 isn't the end of the world

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Tue, 10-13-2009 - 11:12pm

http://myembarq.com/news/read.php?id=17392173&ps=1010&lang=en&from=clickability&imw=Y&page=1

"MEXICO CITY (AP) — Apolinario Chile Pixtun is tired of being bombarded with frantic questions about the Mayan calendar supposedly "running out" on Dec. 21, 2012. After all, it's not the end of the world.

Or is it?

Definitely not, the Mayan Indian elder insists. "I came back from England last year and, man, they had me fed up with this stuff."

It can only get worse for him. Next month Hollywood's "2012" opens in cinemas, featuring earthquakes, meteor showers and a tsunami dumping an aircraft carrier on the White House.

At Cornell University, Ann Martin, who runs the "Curious? Ask an Astronomer" Web site, says people are scared.

"It's too bad that we're getting e-mails from fourth-graders who are saying that they're too young to die," Martin said. "We had a mother of two young children who was afraid she wouldn't live to see them grow up."

Chile Pixtun, a Guatemalan, says the doomsday theories spring from Western, not Mayan ideas.

A significant time period for the Mayas does end on the date, and enthusiasts have found a series of astronomical alignments they say coincide in 2012, including one that happens roughly only once every 25,800 years.

But most archaeologists, astronomers and Maya say the only thing likely to hit Earth is a meteor shower of New Age philosophy, pop astronomy, Internet doomsday rumors and TV specials such as one on the History Channel which mixes "predictions" from Nostradamus and the Mayas and asks: "Is 2012 the year the cosmic clock finally winds down to zero days, zero hope?"

It may sound all too much like other doomsday scenarios of recent decades — the 1987 Harmonic Convergence, the Jupiter Effect or "Planet X." But this one has some grains of archaeological basis.

One of them is Monument Six.

Found at an obscure ruin in southern Mexico during highway construction in the 1960s, the stone tablet almost didn't survive; the site was largely paved over and parts of the tablet were looted.

It's unique in that the remaining parts contain the equivalent of the date 2012. The inscription describes something that is supposed to occur in 2012 involving Bolon Yokte, a mysterious Mayan god associated with both war and creation.

However — shades of Indiana Jones — erosion and a crack in the stone make the end of the passage almost illegible.

Archaeologist Guillermo Bernal of Mexico's National Autonomous University interprets the last eroded glyphs as maybe saying, "He will descend from the sky."

Spooky, perhaps, but Bernal notes there are other inscriptions at Mayan sites for dates far beyond 2012 — including one that roughly translates into the year 4772.

And anyway, Mayas in the drought-stricken Yucatan peninsula have bigger worries than 2012.

"If I went to some Mayan-speaking communities and asked people what is going to happen in 2012, they wouldn't have any idea," said Jose Huchim, a Yucatan Mayan archaeologist. "That the world is going to end? They wouldn't believe you. We have real concerns these days, like rain."

The Mayan civilization, which reached its height from 300 A.D. to 900 A.D., had a talent for astronomy

Its Long Count calendar begins in 3,114 B.C., marking time in roughly 394-year periods known as Baktuns. Thirteen was a significant, sacred number for the Mayas, and the 13th Baktun ends around Dec. 21, 2012.

"It's a special anniversary of creation," said David Stuart, a specialist in Mayan epigraphy at the University of Texas at Austin. "The Maya never said the world is going to end, they never said anything bad would happen necessarily, they're just recording this future anniversary on Monument Six."

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Wed, 10-14-2009 - 11:17am

Gosh, when my calendar runs out, I just buy a new one ;)


No worries, when Hollywood makes a movie of it, it's pretty much GUARANTEED not to happen!




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Wed, 10-14-2009 - 11:32am

***:"No worries, when Hollywood makes a movie of it, it's pretty much GUARANTEED not to happen!"***

ROFLMAO! Absolutely! <:D Remember all the hullaballoo for the "Millennium?" (eye roll) This is just more fear mongering, latching onto Native mysticism instead this time around. Ho-hum. ;) I think the article nailed it when it linked this current attempt at end of the world hysteria to our messed up Western outlook, and has nothing at all to do with this Native mysticism/beliefs at all. Just a "Westernization" of it. Insulting and presumptuous, really... ("Bernal suggests that apocalypse is "a very Western, Christian" concept projected onto the Maya, perhaps because Western myths are "exhausted.") Shrug.

I hadn't taken any of this 2012 nonsense seriously from the beginning, just rolling my eyes for yet another "doomsday" scenario being perpetuated to "titillate" the masses. Hollywood, of course, *must* capitalize on that. I think it's hilarious that the Mayans don't even subscribe to that meaning of their own mysticism. Just a media hype sort of thing. ROFL! <:P



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It is the breath of a buffalo in the wintertime.

It is the little shadow which runs across the grass

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Dog fighting is cruelty, which is a human activity and a human illness.

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All dogs need to be evaluated as individuals."

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"All things share the same breath;

the beast, the tree, the man.

The Air shares its spirit with

all the life it supports."

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"If there are no dogs in Heaven,

then when I die I want to go where they went."

~Will Rogers



"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress

can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

~~Mahatma Gandhi





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Fri, 10-16-2009 - 9:25am

If the sky were truly falling, there would be nothing we could do about it, so what is the point of running back and forth squawking? The world would be a far better place if all that energy were expended on living life *today*.

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Fri, 10-16-2009 - 11:23am
True enough! ;))


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"All things share the same breath;

the beast, the tree, the man.

The Air shares its spirit with

all the life it supports."

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"If there are no dogs in Heaven,

then when I die I want to go where they went."

~Will Rogers



"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress

can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

~~Mahatma Gandhi





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"Life is a state of mind." ~~from Being There.



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Fri, 10-16-2009 - 3:05pm
I'm a bit aggravated with a substitute teacher my ds had earlier this week who was telling the kids all about

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Mon, 10-19-2009 - 2:24am

I think the movie looks cool. John Cusack & Chiwetel Ejiofor? I'm there.

Why do you think we as a species are so obsessed with the idea of the Big Ending?

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Mon, 10-19-2009 - 9:05am

"Why do you think we as a species are so obsessed with the idea of the Big Ending?"

It's not so much we, as a species, but rather Western thought. Western thought and traditions tends to be rectilinear, moving toward some sort of an "end". Eastern thought is more cyclical in nature, an endless cycle of life.

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Mon, 10-19-2009 - 9:18am
I think it is partly too the Christian influence, with the concern for knowing when Christ will return, etc. that many of us grew up with the idea that there is an 'end'.

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Mon, 10-19-2009 - 9:24am

We like our monsters. We like scary rides, horror movies, haunted houses. We are endlessly fascinated with murderous psychopaths like Jack the Ripper. I think it's all part of the same continuum.

I think monsters serve a purpose in human society - they make us think about what is acceptable and unacceptable behaviour; they help us define "normal"; they offer us a yardstick for our definitions of morality and decency.

Apocalyptic mythology offers us an endpoint; gives an immediacy to our behaviour that it might not have otherwise. It makes us ask whether we are being who we should be, or doing all we need to do, right here and right now.

As a species, we like parameters and dislike uncertainty. I visualize it kind of like a rectangular box - creation mythology delineates the left hand end, apocalyptic mythology delineated the right hand end, and monsters etc help make up the two sides.

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