The Illusion of Informed Dissent

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The Illusion of Informed Dissent
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Sat, 12-13-2008 - 3:34pm

Not about religion, but related to a number of issues that come up in here and other boards on iv.

Recently read an interview in DISCOVER magazine, jan 2009 issue, page 12 with Robert Proctor who is a professor of history of science at stanford. He talks about how the tobacco industry put a LOT of effort into making it seem like there was legitimate scientific dissent about whether cigarettes are harmful - and talks about how those same tactics are being used by Global Warming Denialists and Creationists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUZv9DWdBYM

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Sat, 12-13-2008 - 6:35pm

That is a rather common tactic - reach for perceived legitimacy by pretending whatever it is one has for interest(s) are properly challenged and vetted - and emerge unscathed.


Advertisers even use this to a certain extent.


At least one can somewhat sense this happens - though it gets more daunting when the funding line is rather well hidden.


Add this to gender bias in science, and wish like heck that very excellent Bitch article from 4 years ago were available online.

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Sat, 12-13-2008 - 7:11pm


"... when the funding line is rather well hidden."

That's a serious problem. Ironically, one of the things I have heard denialists assert is that all the GW scientists are in it for the money - research grants, book deals, documentaries, speaking engagements, etc. But they don't apply that same standard to the (very few) scientists who support what they want to hear.

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Sun, 12-14-2008 - 10:14am

My favorite argument was one I heard about three years ago

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Sun, 12-14-2008 - 2:45pm
"This government?"
I've heard that same argument - and had a similar reaction to it; namely, bewilderment.