Madonna changes name to Esther

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Madonna changes name to Esther
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Fri, 06-18-2004 - 9:37am
http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/18262.html

Here is an article about Madonna.

Can anyone here tell me anything about Kabbalic Judaism ? Is it a "psuedo Jewish cult" as the article says, or is it a legitimate branch of Judaism. Does it encourage members to "pamper themselves"


Ohter comments, opionion, etc. TIA

TIA

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Mon, 06-21-2004 - 11:28pm
>>Buddhism seems to the "mystic" built right in. Not sure about Hindu...I think that is your area of expertise (and please share--I would love to hear about it).<<

You know, I was about to answer this, and then I had to think about it for a second, because it's not as obvious as I was thinking... I think maybe we'd have to define 'mystic' and 'mysteries'... So I did a random search on google and came up with some interesting results... Did you know that LDS is considered a 'mystery' religion? As is Santeria and Scientology.

Anyway, if by 'mystic' we mean 'beyond human comprehension or consciousness' or perhaps even just anyone concerned with the nature of true reality, i'd have to say that Hinduism seems to have that built in as well - I mean, the whole basis of the faith is the attempt to achieve that True Reality.

On the other hand, there are entire sects of Hinduism (and Buddhism too) that don't delve that deep - branches that are based on 'bhakti' (devotion), which I would equate a bit more with traditional Abrahamic religious ideas of salvation, God, love, etc - I guess it's that whole 'outer' and 'inner' mysteries thing...

I suppose it's something common to many pagan religions then - the option to pursue that path (in Hinduism, you get mystics, fakirs, etc - you know the guys that can do those crazy things with their bodies), or the option to take the 'easier' way by putting yourself in the hands of "God" (eg, Hare Krishnas, though they're not quite Hindu).

But mystery religions also have secret rites or rituals right? In which case I don't think mainstream Hinduism qualifies, though again, there are some sects which probably would (just watched "Taboo" the other day and they talked about one) - and there's the infamous thuggee cult, for anyone who's seen Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

Also, I don't know about the prevalence of magick in Eastern religions - certainly lots of divination, fortune telling, astrology, etc, and lots of rituals involving symbolism and fetishism.

Hmmmm, I was about to ask what it was about mystery religions that make them so frowned upon in traditional Judeo-Christian religions and then I was like, duh.

But you know, if I were ever going to convert to another religion, I would consider Sufism - everything about it is just amazingly beautiful.

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Thu, 06-24-2004 - 12:32pm
I'm just jumping in to sit around and be mysterious for a moment.....I'm LDS you know.....
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Thu, 06-24-2004 - 1:40pm
Oooooo, mysteeeeeerious! (wiggling fingers) ;-)
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Thu, 06-24-2004 - 2:18pm
>>I'm just jumping in to sit around and be mysterious for a moment<<

so that's all that's involved? and here i thought a mystery religion involved some sort of effort, lol. :P

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Thu, 06-24-2004 - 3:22pm
>>But you know, if I were ever going to convert to another religion, I would consider Sufism<<

In local DC news, there's a "House of Sufism" on MacArthur Blvd. I don't know who lives there or what they do, but it's there.

Right down the street from a good sushi place too...

Pete

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Thu, 06-24-2004 - 3:29pm
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House of Sushism.

Sorry, that's really bad I know...

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Thu, 06-24-2004 - 3:39pm
>>Right down the street from a good sushi place too<<


oooooh, what's it called (sufi-what?)??

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Thu, 06-24-2004 - 3:54pm
>>what's it called (sufi-what?)??<<

Kotobuki - nothing too cute (unless Kotobuki means "You mean this isn't cooked?!?" in Japanese).

On a related note, had sushi last night. DS ate a fistful of pickled ginger. He liked it.

Strange little kid...

Pete

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Thu, 06-24-2004 - 3:58pm
Don't you just love sushi? I whipped up a batch of california rolls for my friend Joe, and when his roommate saw them in the fridge the following conversation ensued:

Roomie: Where's the sushi from?

Joe: Elaine

Roomie: But where's it from?

Joe: From Elaine

Roomie: But where did SHE get it?

Joe: She made it.

Roomie: Ohhhh!

Very "who's on first" don't ya think? But now I'm *totally* off topic.

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Thu, 06-24-2004 - 3:59pm
>>House of Sushism<<

I guess that soon we'll start hearing about the conservative Wasabi sect of Islam too...

Pete

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