Thoughts on Prop 8 Trial?

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Thoughts on Prop 8 Trial?
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Tue, 01-12-2010 - 12:22pm

With the trial starting to determine the constitutionality of Prop. 8 in California,

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Tue, 01-12-2010 - 2:58pm
I'm glad this is all coming to a head again. I am ashamed of my state for voting us back into the dark ages of discrimination and making it o.k. to legislate denial of civil rights to one group of people. BAH! >>:-|| I really hope it does make it all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, but I don't have much faith that they will do the right thing, either. Gutless wonders. Not ready to evolve to a higher level, likely, just like many of our politicians. And the balance on the U.S. Supreme Court depends on political positioning and jockeying, as to who gets appointed, so who knows? I think the effort, the activism, the push to give legal status for gay marriage to the ENTIRE nation is where we need to go. So that no state can deny gay couples their civil right to marry and have the same protections as heterosexuals have. I've always felt this had to go national and decided for the country as a whole. So it wouldn't matter if a gay couple had to relocate for careers or whatever, to another state, and then be in the horrible situation of being considered married in one state, but losing those rights in another.


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Tue, 01-12-2010 - 9:50pm

Well, I had thought that I'd never see the day that I'd be cheering Ted Olson on...

But they're absolutely right and there is simply NO legal argument to support denying gay couples the right to marry. None.

That said, the current US Supreme Court (the expected final destination of this case) makes me nervous. There are several on that court so far to the right that they probably have to sit across the street. I don't trust Scalia, Alito and Thomas to look at the legal issues.

So my fingers will remain tightly crossed - and I do think that in the end, the only road to equality is a Supreme Court ruling.

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Wed, 01-13-2010 - 12:59pm
That said, the current US Supreme Court (the expected final destination of this case) makes me nervous.



Just thinking about it puts my stomach in knots.



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Thu, 01-14-2010 - 9:39am
I agree, the very far-far-far-right Justices worry me a lot, but I have to believe that they were put there because they know the law, not because they intend to flout it for questionable religious reasons.



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Thu, 01-14-2010 - 10:50am

I am worried, also. Mainly because of the rabid deliberate festering of intense animosity between political parties, win at all costs, regardless of what is best for the *entire* country and *all* its people, that has developed. I hope, too, the judges have the integrity necessary to follow the law, also, rather than political ideology or religious slant. This critical decision regarding civil rights should be based on our Constitution and Bill of Rights for ALL, and not about politics or trumpeting one religious view over another.

I still think the guarantee of full marriage legal rights and recognition for all needs to be done for the nation as a whole, not bit by bit, state by state. Canada managed to evolve on this issue; I hope we can, too.



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the beast, the tree, the man.

The Air shares its spirit with

all the life it supports."

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"If there are no dogs in Heaven,

then when I die I want to go where they went."

~Will Rogers



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Thu, 01-14-2010 - 4:34pm
Well, that's my concern. The three I mentioned have demonstrated the willingness to put ideology over the law. I don't think they are honest jurists at all.