Alcohol and Children

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Alcohol and Children
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Fri, 07-18-2003 - 11:19am
I've noticed through a current discussion and in different threads in the past a trend that kind of disturbs me. I've heard some people say they drink when they are responsible for watching their children, or they drink and then get in the car and drive their children somewhere. I'm sorry... I have nothing against alcohol, I drink it (except not now, being that I'm pregnant) but I feel there is a time and a place for it, and when you're supposed to be watching your children or when you are going to be driving (at all, much less with children in the car) is NOT it. Does anyone else find this ass odd as I do?

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Registered: 08-29-2002
Fri, 07-18-2003 - 11:26am
Are we talking about a glass of wine or beer with an evening meal or rather heavier drinking? I can't think of any parents I know who refuse to have a glass of wine with a meal because it might impare their ability to care for their kids, but I have never seen heavier drinking around children. As for driving...alcohol and driving laws are so strict where we live that whichever one of us drives home will absolutely stay off any alcohol or, at most, drink half a glass of wine with food hours before the drive home.


Laura

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Fri, 07-18-2003 - 11:31am
I'll take it one further.

A part of the big law firm scene is that every summer, you bring in law clerks who are between the second and third year of law school to "work" at your firm. Of course, what this means is that the top 10 percent of students from every reputable law school get offers to make $2300 per week, yes this summer the going rate is $2300 per week, to be wined and dined and entertained all summer. Every single day we take them out to lunch at a nice restaurant (I think our lunch limit is $25 per person). Plus, they get dinners out and evening enterainment at least 3 times per week, plus every single weekend there is at least a big party--casino party, dance party, etc. that involves mucho alcohol. And then don't forget the Thurs evening happy hours. Basically, it is 12 weeks of throwing as much money and alcohol as you can at top students to "impress" them with your firm so they will want to come work for you.

What always strikes me is that these law firms bring people to parties, happy hours, etc., fill them with booze, and then send them to drive home. (It is not uncommon to have 4-5 margaritas at the happy hour before heading off to drive home.) And then the attorneys full of drink go pick up their kids from the babysitter and drive them home. I have actually brought up every year before the summer starts that I find this a DWI accident just waiting to happen and that the firm should find less alcohol-based ways of entertaining people. people get drunk and drive drunk every summer, but so far I don't know of any who have been arrested or injured.

I think that being surrounded with such a display of excess in an attempt to impress young lawyers-to-be has really tainted the way I view entertainment, alcohol and social events. personally, i find it irresponsible to go out drinking and then come home and real responsible for chidlren. I don't think a glass or wine or a beer with dinner is "drinking" in the sense I use it here, but multiple drinks, yes.

Of course, this could be because I grew up in countries where it is illegal to even possess alcohol, so excess drinking is something i encountered for the first time in the US as an adult.


Edited 7/18/2003 11:35:45 AM ET by karenester

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Fri, 07-18-2003 - 11:35am
I just mean someone at home, by themselves in the afternoon or something, drinking a glass of wine or two when they are solely responsible for their children. As to the driving.... I really don't believe in drinking anything before driving, unless you're a heavier person it is one glass of wine or one beer several hours before driving. And if you are the only person there... if your child needs to be taken to the doctor or something, or there is an emergency, and you've been drinking.. now what. I just think it is irresponsible.
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Fri, 07-18-2003 - 11:37am
Same here. I don't find that a beer with dinner impairs my ability to read dd a bedtime story. Or slow my reflexes so much that I can't grab her wrist if she were to grab something dangerous (she's 3, so it doesn't happen as much as it did a year ago).

As for rip-roaring drunk? I stopped liking that several years before I was even pregnant, so it's not a worry.

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Registered: 12-12-2002
Fri, 07-18-2003 - 11:48am
Personally, I don't see the point of alcohol, and I never have. It is something that does impair your thinking and reactions. I don't need something that impairs my abilities to have fun.

Okmrsmommy-36, CPmom to DD-16 and DS-14

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Fri, 07-18-2003 - 11:48am
Well, that does sound pretty weird to me...I can't really imagine driking alone (possible exception: I could imagine dh on an extremely hot day drinking half a glass of beer, but even then I think he would preferentially hit the coffee and just stick some ice cream on top...his true addiction:-)). But then I am a complete light-weight when it comes to drink and generally avoid even a glass of wine these days due to my tendency to get migraines afterwards. The crowd of friends I hang out with are much more the dinner-and-movies type of people and dinner is still a glass of wine at most, alcohol is just too expensive to drink in large quantities at restaurants.


Laura

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Fri, 07-18-2003 - 12:02pm
I agree with you. It is detrimental to your health & can be to the health of those around you. Anyone who drinks & gets behind the wheel of a car is so incredibly irresponsible, they should have their license revoked immediately & permanently.
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Fri, 07-18-2003 - 12:09pm
I never drink alone, but it's not uncommon to have a couple of drinks with my DH or neighbours on a weekend afternoon. *If* something were to happen, that was an emergency there is always 911 and incase of a non-emergency emergency (if you know what I mean) there are always other neighbours or cab companies.

I think responsible drinking is one thing, over the top fall down drunk is another story.

L.

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Fri, 07-18-2003 - 12:48pm
Not all drinking is detrimental to one's health. In fact, a glass of red wine a day is supposed to be good for you - I can't remember in what way, perhaps for the heart?

Obviously excessive drinking is not good for anyone, but moderate drinking is not considered harmful to one's health.

Maureen

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Fri, 07-18-2003 - 12:53pm
The amount of antioxidants in a glass of red wine can easily be equalled in a glass of grape juice or green tea.

I agree, excessive drinking is not good for anyone, but my point was that no one should drink, even a little, if they are planning on getting behind the wheel of a car. When you take that step, you are moving from putting your own health in jeopardy, which is obviously each individual's choice, to putting innocent people's lives in jeopardy, which is unacceptable.

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