Ann Romney and Working Moms

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Ann Romney and Working Moms
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Thu, 04-12-2012 - 11:26am

Hilary Rosen has started a Twitter firestorm by stating that Ann Romney isn't capable of giving advice on women and the economy since she's never worked a day in her life:

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Fri, 04-13-2012 - 12:54pm
"especially as a means of earning one's livelihood. "

How does that apply to Ann Romney?

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Fri, 04-13-2012 - 1:01pm
"employment, as in some form of industry, especially as a means of earning one's livelihood. "

can't, imo, be applied to charity work. It does mention pay "as a means of earning one's livelihood".


I agree it can be interpreted as insulting ... but not if you put it in context of both the rest of Rosen's remarks and the overall topic of the economic crisis/presidential campaign.

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Fri, 04-13-2012 - 1:17pm
It doesn't, but even that doesn't *limit* the meaning to earning one's livelihood. And your other definitions #1, 2, or 3 below come from dictionary.com and don't say anything about "earning one's livelihood." Any of them could apply to her charitable work or to taking care of her kids, and none of them mention pay. I've seen this debate many times over the years on these boards, and I agree with those who say that charitable work (and sah) are *work*; they're just not a job. What Rosen should have said is that Romney "has never had a job in her life" or that she's "never worked for pay."
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Fri, 04-13-2012 - 1:21pm
Yes, the other definitions could apply to Romney. That was my point. Those are the definitions Romeny and other offended SAHMs are using to take offense. But it's *clearly* not the definition Rosen was using.



And really? Rosen needs to clarify that much when she's speaking off the cuff? I suppose I should start saying "I don't want to go to my paid place of outside employment" instead of "I don't wanna go to work today." or "I'm so glad it's the weekend so I don't have to utilize my skills for my paycheck" instead of "I'm so glad it's the weekend so I don't have to work." BAER

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Fri, 04-13-2012 - 1:33pm
I think that's likely what she meant, but I don't think it's as obvious as you do, and I can understand why Romney and others took it the way they did. And she was on national TV when she made the comment, so yes, I think she should have been more careful about the words she used when criticizing someone.
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Fri, 04-13-2012 - 1:41pm
I think the words people use are often meaningful. However, I'd never heard of Rosen before this, so I would give her the benefit of the doubt in assuming she didn't mean it that way. As you say, she followed up with a clarification and has apologized. I don't think that means she was "right," though, just that she misspoke, which happens. I think she's "right" that the Romneys are out of touch.
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Fri, 04-13-2012 - 2:33pm
Yes, I suppose.. But the Romneys just might own a piece of Russia.

 

 

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Fri, 04-13-2012 - 2:43pm

I can't believe some think what Rosen said was right, Wow...

 

 

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Fri, 04-13-2012 - 2:46pm
What about having to work for pay would qualify your opinion about the economy over a mom who SAH?

 

 

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Fri, 04-13-2012 - 3:01pm

I thought Ann Romney's response was great, She owed nobody anything but when asked about it she said that her "career choice" was to raise her boys, She even went as far as to say she has respect for other womens' choices... And owning up to our own choices and responsibilities is really what it's all about, IMO.

 

 

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