Indeed, what are we debating? I think you've figured out what I've said all along. About how many have you found "sometimes", "often", "possibly", and "has the potential to" in my posts?
No, I haven't made many negative comments about cheerleading. It only seems that way because of the number of times I've had to make the same point, which is that cheerleading is not without its elements of objectification, and which you eventually agreed with. Since I was never knocking cheerleading as a whole, I didn't need to defend it.
The question was what's wrong with bellybuttons? I'm for everybody obeying the dress code, in the school building and on the field. If the boys also showed their belly buttons, then they, too would be in violation. Not a good thing, IMO. Let's keep all the belly buttons neatly covered up, that'd be my recommendation.
I meant particularly those elements of an activity like cheerleading that might tend to objectivize a girl physically, such as makeup, costumes and suggestive routines, not the degree to which their performance is technically up to adult levels of achievement.
But you can't talk about it if you can't acknowledge its existence, as we see in this subthread. And sometimes you might have to do more than talk about, for instance, if the cheer squad is made up and dressed a certain way and has particular moves that you consider too adult and there's nothing you can do to change it. Then you have a decision to make.
The New York Times has had a lot of coverage the last couple of years about college athletes, particularly football players, who don't really qualify academically and who have special courses or even "distance learning" in place to keep them on the teams. I'm sure a lot of it is hype, but is all of it?
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Of course you don't ignore it, never stated that is what one should.
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Okay, around here it's a different NFL team in town and I know we have
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In the four years that my dd was in high school, the varsity squad had two male members. The guys are welcome to try out, they just don't often do it.
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<<No, I haven't made many negative comments about cheerleading.>>
Yes, you have.
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