I haven't denied that it exists. I know some of it exists. But I'm not going to take the cases where it does exist and use it to judge all the other cases as well. I won't apply the specifics of individual cases to the whole.
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I won't let my kid emulate it either. See it? Yeah, I'd let her see it, and use it as a lesson to explain what's wrong with that type of thing.
It was more than one article, and there was lots of dirt about college players who have all kinds of special provisions.
But I'm sure none of it was true. And if any of those New England Patriots cheerleaders went to college on scholarships and had their cheer experience there, they probably all had *merit* scholarships.
<<No, I meant you in the general sense. If it's fair for you (the actual you this time) to claim I'm knocking cheerleading across the board (which of course I am not), then it's also fair for me to say that some posters don't seem to recognize there could ever be the remotest chance of objectification in cheerleading. Not including you, of course.>>
Then you aren't reading the post, because everyone had mentioned that it exists, that it's possible that it exists, that they are looked at their programs and/or activities and it's just not currently happening.
She did say "sometimes depending on where they are going." That's not the same as saying wearing short belly shirts to have their torso exposed is ok every day all the time & she allows it.
So of course the NY Times article about football applies to cheerleaders, because... exactly why?
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I have no idea, I haven't made such blanket statements as to college cheerleaders across the board, I have no idea if an article about football players applies or doesn't to cheerleaders.
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I haven't denied that it exists. I know some of it exists. But I'm not going to take the cases where it does exist and use it to judge all the other cases as well. I won't apply the specifics of individual cases to the whole.
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I won't let my kid emulate it either. See it? Yeah, I'd let her see it, and use it as a lesson to explain what's wrong with that type of thing.
It was more than one article, and there was lots of dirt about college players who have all kinds of special provisions.
But I'm sure none of it was true. And if any of those New England Patriots cheerleaders went to college on scholarships and had their cheer experience there, they probably all had *merit* scholarships.
Sabina
Sabina
Oh, life is a glorious cycle of song,
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I agreed that its a problem in many, many activities....you however seem to only want to limit it to cheerleading.
PumpkinAngel
Where?
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Then I think they have dress codes for the wrong reasons.
PumpkinAngel
<<No, I meant you in the general sense. If it's fair for you (the actual you this time) to claim I'm knocking cheerleading across the board (which of course I am not), then it's also fair for me to say that some posters don't seem to recognize there could ever be the remotest chance of objectification in cheerleading. Not including you, of course.>>
Then you aren't reading the post, because everyone had mentioned that it exists, that it's possible that it exists, that they are looked at their programs and/or activities and it's just not currently happening.
PumpkinAngel
<< I just don't happen to see why girls shouldn't have their torsos covered up. It seems immodest to me, especially when the boys don't show theirs.>>
Didn't you just post that you allow belly buttons to show?
PumpkinAngel
So of course the NY Times article about football applies to cheerleaders, because... exactly why?
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I have no idea, I haven't made such blanket statements as to college cheerleaders across the board, I have no idea if an article about football players applies or doesn't to cheerleaders.
PumpkinAngel
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