And of course you have backed that up with numerous statements about how the stats you posted support our opinion, that a law in one state supports your opinion and that your opinion is not incorrect.
I'm pretty sure churchgoers *in general* avoid wearing only their lingerie or their bathing suits to church, but of course YMMV.
As to oglers, it might not make any difference at all whether a belly shirt wearer is a cheerleader or not. OTOH, it might. We all have our own ideas of what's appropriate, and most of us draw the line somewhere. For me, I wouldn't like to see my dd cheerlead in a bathing suit, in her underwear, or in a belly shirt. But I recognize that that's just me.
Because your bitterness towards cheerleaders and cheerleading as a whole might be from the fact of a crushed daughter who didn't make the team and are faced with the fact that some of those more popular, athletic girls did.
Na, I would bet that most of them understand the nuances that society feels should be in place or rather some members of society feels, but they just choose to be independent of how society feels that they or their children should dress.
No I have different rules of what is appropriate for each. It is simple to keep track of, School clothes are hung up and shirts have to have a collar, no jeans church clothes are hung up and shirts have to have a collar no jeans. Play clothes for home and public are in certain drawers. For instance my boys can wear tee-shirt with a hole or jeans to play at home, not out to dinner ect. Practice clothes are in certain drawers performance clothes are hung. Party clothes are hung. ect.
For me it is not only about modesty but what is appropriate.
But unfortunately it doesn't take a great deal of imagination to find gender objectification in lots of different popular girls' activities. It's nothing against those activities as such, but only against those who don't recognize gender objectification as an issue and who don't know it when they see instances of it.
A few different posters have commented that they've seen instances of inappropriateness in cheerleading, and in other girls' activities, and of course it's easy enough to find reports about it. But if sensitivity to gender objectification were universal, maybe it wouldn't even come up.
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And of course you have backed that up with numerous statements about how the stats you posted support our opinion, that a law in one state supports your opinion and that your opinion is not incorrect.
PumpkinAngel
I'm pretty sure churchgoers *in general* avoid wearing only their lingerie or their bathing suits to church, but of course YMMV.
As to oglers, it might not make any difference at all whether a belly shirt wearer is a cheerleader or not. OTOH, it might. We all have our own ideas of what's appropriate, and most of us draw the line somewhere. For me, I wouldn't like to see my dd cheerlead in a bathing suit, in her underwear, or in a belly shirt. But I recognize that that's just me.
Sabina
Sabina
Oh, life is a glorious cycle of song,
Then I suggest you do a search using the word contradiction, because it's there.....after all, that's how the subject came up to begin with.
PumpkinAngel
Sabina
Sabina
Oh, life is a glorious cycle of song,
Na, I would bet that most of them understand the nuances that society feels should be in place or rather some members of society feels, but they just choose to be independent of how society feels that they or their children should dress.
PumpkinAngel
No I have different rules of what is appropriate for each. It is simple to keep track of, School clothes are hung up and shirts have to have a collar, no jeans church clothes are hung up and shirts have to have a collar no jeans. Play clothes for home and public are in certain drawers. For instance my boys can wear tee-shirt with a hole or jeans to play at home, not out to dinner ect. Practice clothes are in certain drawers performance clothes are hung. Party clothes are hung. ect.
For me it is not only about modesty but what is appropriate.
That's very imaginative in so many ways.
But unfortunately it doesn't take a great deal of imagination to find gender objectification in lots of different popular girls' activities. It's nothing against those activities as such, but only against those who don't recognize gender objectification as an issue and who don't know it when they see instances of it.
A few different posters have commented that they've seen instances of inappropriateness in cheerleading, and in other girls' activities, and of course it's easy enough to find reports about it. But if sensitivity to gender objectification were universal, maybe it wouldn't even come up.
Sabina
Sabina
Oh, life is a glorious cycle of song,
How do you keep all of the rules straight?
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What does having a collar or not have to do with being modest?
PumpkinAngel
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