"Babies do fine when mom works"

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"Babies do fine when mom works"
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Sat, 03-26-2005 - 11:08am

I just downloaded the empirical article upon which this popular media article is based, but thought I'd post a link to the pop-media article as grist for our mill.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151565,00.html


Thoughts?


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Registered: 01-05-2005
Thu, 03-31-2005 - 11:52am
Every single sahm I've ever seen has been just doing what they do, and hoping for the best. I don't know how many of them would rate themselves a "high quality care providers" But I haven't seen a single one provide a thing other than what would be rated as "plain ordinary genearlly acceptable" care. Generally in at least a slightly (often significantly) more stressed and disorganized fashion as compared to care provided by dcps in any setting. Absolutely none of the sahms have ever gone out and solicited a gov't or other agency that is involved in rating childcare situations to come in and give them, the sahm, an inspection, that she might get a better idea of where she fits in overall, in terms of childcare. The only thing any sahm I know knows for certain is that she has as of yet, not crossed the line that would cause children protection agencies, or health and safety agencies, to become invovled in her life. I don't know a single sahm who has researched the situation she provides, or has gone to any lenght whatsoever to try and determine in any objective way, how the environment she provides compares to anything else provided by any dcp or other sahm or other caregiver of any description. With all this taken into consideration, you have to conclude that far far far more is know by the wohm about how the situation of their child in other care actually rates in terms of what is actually available out there- than does any sahm.
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Registered: 03-29-2005
Thu, 03-31-2005 - 12:01pm

"PJM posted that for her *individual* situation, the stats don't matter. I said the same for my *individual* situation."

Could you please explain why the stats don't matter to your *individual* situation? BTW, you do realize that the study wasn't based soley on center care, right?

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Registered: 03-29-2005
Thu, 03-31-2005 - 12:02pm

"Technically, it's VirgoGIRL (not virgomom). . .but you can just call me Virgo. That's what most here call me."

Sorry about that :) Virgo it is !!!

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Registered: 03-29-2005
Thu, 03-31-2005 - 12:12pm

"You aren't? Sure you are."

Aren't what, honest? Sure I am.

"Every adult who leaves for work and doesn't take their young kids along, has some child care arrangement about which to be honest. Including of course, the Daddies who leave the children with the Mommies."

Why do you assume that every adult WOH? You seem to be forgetting parents who SAH as well as parents who WAH.

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-18-2004
Thu, 03-31-2005 - 12:20pm

Ahhhh, you haven't learned QM-speak.


What she means is that Mommy going to work and leaving little Timmy with DCP, is exactly the same as Daddy going to work and leaving little Timmy with Mommy.

Mondo

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Registered: 01-05-2005
Thu, 03-31-2005 - 12:25pm
Adults who "leave for work" woh. They aren't sah and they aren't wah.
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Registered: 01-05-2005
Thu, 03-31-2005 - 12:28pm

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So if you could afford it, you'd be hiring two nannies for your two children? You'd like to see more sah with more than 1 kid hire nannies to cover the extra kids? Or are you advocating single child families?

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-29-2005
Thu, 03-31-2005 - 12:30pm

"If we look at those which rate as 'good' to 'above average' (ie high quality), the percentages go up significantly."

Even then, the percentages are still only about 30% - 32%. Sure, this is better that 9% -12 %, but it still means that less than one third of child care settings are even in the 'good' to 'above average' range. I agree that there is a definate difference, but I don't think it is a "significant" difference. Also, I don't really see simply lowering the expectations or the standards from 'high' to 'good' or 'above average' as an effective means of addressing the issues.

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Thu, 03-31-2005 - 12:31pm

Because individual situations run the gamut. Statistics only show the average. I will give an example of calorie intake. The RDA comes up with a recommended daily calorie amount. However, that calorie amount doesn't work for every person - in fact it probably doesn't work for most people. Some people's bodies need more to operate effectively and some need less. It is an average. People are different and have different needs.

It is the same thing with raising children. We all have different situations, needs, finances, personalities, opportunities, availabilities - so our solutions will be different too. What works well for one family would be disasterous for another.

There cannot be one and only one way to raise children because there are too many variables.

iVillage Member
Registered: 05-28-2003
Thu, 03-31-2005 - 12:33pm

wow. You didn't have a SINGLE occasion where you went out without your child for FOUR years? wow.

Edited to add: did you ever want to? If so, why didn't you?




Edited 3/31/2005 1:34 pm ET ET by iaudrey00

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