"Broadening your Horizons"

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"Broadening your Horizons"
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Fri, 04-04-2003 - 8:41pm
Okay, I've been scanning through the posts below, and this is something that has grabbed my attention. There are those here who seem to believe that you can only broaden your horizons by going to college or joining the peace corps or military. It also seems that doing so as a young person (directly out of high school) is preferable.

So, I'm curious about how people feel these things actually "broadened their horizons", and how that has benefited them in their lives so far. I'm also curious how you feel this has benefited you more so than someone who might have opted out of college/military/peace corps.

Okmrsmommy-36, CPmom to DD-16 and DS-14

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Wed, 04-16-2003 - 5:09pm
But in what way is it harder not to have a college degree than it is to get one?

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Wed, 04-16-2003 - 5:08pm
the "hardness" of the struggle is based on the individual person perception. What one may find "hard," another might find easy.

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Wed, 04-16-2003 - 5:05pm
Just a tad off, she came into the management position getting paid less then what I was earning as a manager. I was there first, she had the degree, I still got paid more.

There are new trades a person can learn, take insurance for example. Anyone w/out a degree or experiance can study for their state licensing exam, pass it, and make good money. Anyone can study for their state real estate exam and make good money. (yes, they have to apply for the job when considering they have to work *for* someone...but it is still degreeless). I made decent money just off of property and casualty.

Someone could put their foot in the door at a call center and work their way up and make decent money. Resorts pay pretty good money. In our area, you can make a hefty amount just in the cleaning business alone. I do those in-home parties...one lady made the company over a million dollars...the minimum she received was 30% of that (that is the base-line commission).

Yes, many things do require experiance, I never said they didn't. But good money can be had if one is willing to put their time in and work for it.

And yes, your right, you would have two degrees versus the one degree.

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Wed, 04-16-2003 - 4:58pm
I do not agree.

Some struggles are harder than others, for a variety of reasons. Achieving a college education is an identifiable struggle.

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Wed, 04-16-2003 - 4:52pm
Struggles are all different...there is no equivalent for anyone. What my struggles are do not equate any where to what your struggles are. Does that mean yours is less or more then mine? No, it means they are different, but they are still struggles.

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Wed, 04-16-2003 - 3:18pm
Very good point! Life happens to all of us.
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Wed, 04-16-2003 - 3:08pm
I believe that you are happy. I would never tell you that you had to go to school in order to be happy. I suppose that I could never see myself working third shift (I need my sleep). Personally, I would want another option but that is not you.

But, college is still a broadening experience and I am sticking to it. :)

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Wed, 04-16-2003 - 3:04pm
I will address a couple of points.

"I never said college wasn't a broadening experiance. What I have said is that it isn't the only way to experiance and the only way to broaden."

I absolutely agree with that and I have stated that here many times in this mess of a thread :) But I am glad that you agree that college is a broadening experience, at least one of them.

"I never mentioned anything about experiance. I only mentioned degrees. However, my dh's starting salary on road construction is more then the average teacher makes in our area. Social work also came to mind wrt a non-degreed person make more. Experiance does make a difference. I made the same amount of money as management asmy counterpart did with her degree. I had more experiance."

Yes, I am sure your dh makes a good salary on road construction. But he had to learn it too. Yes, you can make as much as your counterpart with a degree. But, the degree got her in the door. You worked up to it.

Oh, maybe one more thing.

" If you already put time into college...by going to get another degree...you are only getting that other degree quicker. Your time is basically the same as someone who is starting from scratch. The only difference is the person is doing it all at once, and you split it up."

No, it is not the same because I came out with two degrees to their one.

And, of course, you can always go to college. Great to keep your options open.

I still want to know where those great paying jobs are.

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Wed, 04-16-2003 - 2:44pm
If you already put time into college...by going to get another degree...you are only getting that other degree quicker. Your time is basically the same as someone who is starting from scratch. The only difference is the person is doing it all at once, and you split it up.

Just because I didn't go to college out of HS, doesn't mean I have one less path available. College is always an option. You almost make it sound like it is a "now or never" moment. Simply not true. The path doesn't fold up and close down once you hit a certain age. It is always there...and always available if you want it.

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**Nah, we weren't talking about better person...I was just wondering what your take was on that subject. I never said college wasn't a broadening experiance. What I have said is that it isn't the only way to experiance and the only way to broaden.

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**I never mentioned anything about experiance. I only mentioned degrees. However, my dh's starting salary on road construction is more then the average teacher makes in our area. Social work also came to mind wrt a non-degreed person make more. Experiance does make a difference. I made the same amount of money as management asmy counterpart did with her degree. I had more experiance.

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Wed, 04-16-2003 - 2:39pm
Anyone (barring infertility problems) can become a parent. Not everyone can get a college degree or a graduate degree.


Edited 4/16/2003 2:41:57 PM ET by tickmich

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