Change Up

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Change Up
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Mon, 03-22-2010 - 5:33pm

On a debate team, one has to be prepared to debate *either* side of a specified subject area.

So, what points from the "other side" do think have merit. Are there any points that you haven't seen that you think would be hard to counter?

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Registered: 04-22-2005
In reply to: tryingtoquit
Tue, 03-23-2010 - 11:35am

Okay, since I'm a WOHM I'll argue for the SAHM point.

I think that just as one can devote more time and effort to one's career without children, one can devote more time and effort to one's children without a career. There is something to be said for being able to focus on just one thing or the other. Raising children while working might be like driving while using a cell phone - as long as we're not crashing, we may think that we are doing just fine (and maybe we ARE doing fine) but there may be close calls that we are simply not aware of because part of our attention is elsewhere. One might wonder whether there are things about our family that we would be better at noticing and dealing with if all of our attention was focused on that instead of a job.















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Registered: 03-27-2003
In reply to: tryingtoquit
Tue, 03-23-2010 - 11:52am

I've done both, so I'll make arguments for both. The best arguments for woh are money and career. In addition to salary, you lose raises and retirement savings by sah. In some careers, taking significant time off can also be a big negative.

The best argument for sah is more time with the kids, especially when they're small.

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Registered: 10-22-2009
In reply to: tryingtoquit
Tue, 03-23-2010 - 12:20pm

you lose

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Registered: 03-08-2010
In reply to: tryingtoquit
Tue, 03-23-2010 - 3:22pm
What would have done then if your dh lost his job? Would you have had the earning potential to support your family?
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Registered: 03-08-2010
In reply to: tryingtoquit
Tue, 03-23-2010 - 3:24pm
And maybe a pension. My "pension" will not be a traditional monthly one but will be one chunk given to me when I leave my job. That is part of my retirement money and if I did not work, I would not have gotten this "free" money.
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Registered: 03-27-2003
In reply to: tryingtoquit
Tue, 03-23-2010 - 4:21pm
Good point.
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Registered: 01-09-2009
In reply to: tryingtoquit
Tue, 03-23-2010 - 4:50pm

Having two incomes is not protection. Handling the income you have smartly no matter how many sources it comes from is protection.


ITA.


I would

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Registered: 03-08-2010
In reply to: tryingtoquit
Tue, 03-23-2010 - 4:57pm
I have to disagree. I don't think people are "setting up a dynamic" for divorce by having both spouses work outside of the home. Just like I would teach my son about taking care of a family (financially), I would teach my daughter. You can't always rely on a spouse to financially take care of you as you never know what life will bring you.
Do you feel you would be able to get a job now and support your entire family after being out of the work force for 14 years? What would happen if your dh lost his job and could not find another one for awhile or if he found one that did not bring in enough money to support your entire family?
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Registered: 04-22-2005
In reply to: tryingtoquit
Tue, 03-23-2010 - 5:14pm

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I think this goes back to the comment about handling finances.
If their finances were handled in such a way that they had enough in savings to support themselves until he found another job, then that is what they would do. Ditto for a dual working couple.

If they had been living paycheck to paycheck, then the loss of income would be devastating and they would probably lose their home and many of their possessions. Ditto for a dual working couple.















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Registered: 01-08-2009
In reply to: tryingtoquit
Tue, 03-23-2010 - 5:19pm

I don't think she meant to say that a woman working outside the home is setting up a dynamic for divorce. I think she said that working FOR THE REASON of being able to protect yourself in case of divorce is setting up a dynamic for divorce.

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