Councils and Carer Strategies

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-31-2009
Councils and Carer Strategies
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Sun, 04-12-2009 - 6:16pm

Here is a letter written by a member in response to her local council's Carers' Strategy


What about parents bringing up their own children?

I have just been reading the above strategy on the LB Greenwich website, and would like to make the following comments.

I believe parents who choose to stay at home to bring up their dependent children should be classified as carers and their needs and aspirations included in your carers' strategy.

I note that your definition of carers is based on the Carers (Recognition and Services) Act 1995, and you define a carer as 'someone who looks after or provides regular unpaid help to family members, neighbours or friends who are sick or disabled. This includes parents of children with disabilities'.

However, I would challenge this as being too narrow, and I believe Greenwich Council should be challenging it too, if you are to meet the needs of all your residents. Greenwich is a forward-looking borough in so many ways (school meals, recycling, the Olympics, to name but a few) and you should be looking to lead in this area too.


Support for parents is unfairly skewed

There is considerable help available to parents of dependent children who wish to return to work. This includes Government-funded programmes such as Sure Start centres and the childcare element of Tax Credits, but it also includes extensive Council resources such as subsidies to childcare services, support for childminders and a plethora of literature promoting commercial childcare and how to choose it.

By contrast - even though ALL ratepayers fund these initiatives - there is no corresponding support for parents who choose to stay at home with their children. Yet we are making a valid personal choice and arguably giving our children the best possible start.

(As I am sure you are aware, there is an avalanche of evidence about the negative effects of too much paid work on family relationships and children's outcomes and attainment. Study after study also shows that a significant number of parents with dependent children would prefer not to work outside the home while their children are young, if they felt they could afford that choice. I can supply many specific references for these research areas if you are interested.)

Financial hardship faced by stay-at-home parents

By doing what we believe is best for our children, and putting them first, we are also forgoing current income and future pension rights at precisely the time when our costs have risen through having to support additional dependents. In this, stay-at-home parents are no different from other kinds of carers.

For example, it becomes hard to afford things like standard prices for leisure centre activities, full-price public transport or prescription charges. Stay-at-home parents have no income and I would suggest they should receive concessions similar to those for retired people. Perhaps as a start, for example, these concessions could be to made available to all parents at home with a child under five, with a means-tested ceiling to exclude parents with very high-earning partners.

This would also send out a strong signal that Greenwich Council places a high value on the care and wellbeing of young children. Supporting those parents who wish to stay at home would help improve children's readiness to learn when they start school (eg vocabulary, speaking and listening skills; cooperative behaviour; concentration skills; and secure attachment). Again, there is considerable research evidence in this field, which I can supply if desired.

EU recognition of carers in GDP

Finally, I believe LB Greenwich should be joining the lobby at European level to achieve recognition in GDP of carers' contribution to the economy. This campaign is being led by Ireland and Sweden and would give a huge boost to the status and recognition of carers across the EU. Yet there is no mention of it in your strategy. Could it be included in your work programme?

Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any comments about my submission. I look forward to hearing your views in due course.


http://www.fulltimemothers.org/submissions/greenwich_carers.html

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iVillage Member
Registered: 04-22-2005
Wed, 04-15-2009 - 12:37pm

Actually, a statistically "middle class" person can be living a poverty-level lifestyle. That's what she's saying.

A family of 4 earning $40k in Stillwater, Oklahoma would be living a middle class lifestyle (home in a safe neighborhood, decent car, plenty for their needs). A family of 4 earning $40k in the Bay Area is probably cramped into a too-small apartment in a shady neighborhood, with little left over for the essentials. They could very well be constantly worrying whether they can pay utilities and still have enough to buy food. KWIM?

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iVillage Member
Registered: 12-31-2008
Wed, 04-15-2009 - 12:40pm

>>Those who use the term should specify whether they are using it to refer to a set of values and type of lifestyle or in its literal sense to refer to a range on the income spectrum.<<


So, look at this:


You qualify for an EIC, for example, if you have one child and make $41,646 and file married, jointly.


The federal guidelines for poverty, family of 3 is $18, 310.


You do not have to be living in poverty to qualify for an EIC. Statically, your income level could be within the middle class range.


iVillage Member
Registered: 04-22-2005
Wed, 04-15-2009 - 12:47pm

Did you mean to reply to me? Because I wasn't disagreeing with you in that post.

<You do not have to be living in poverty to qualify for an EIC. Statically, your income level could be within the middle class range.>>

Yes, I am AGREEING with you about that. Especially the "statistically" part.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 12-31-2008
Wed, 04-15-2009 - 12:55pm

Yes, sorry, I was just furthering the thought. Yes, we agree.

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-22-2005
Wed, 04-15-2009 - 1:00pm
Yeah, unless qualification for EIC is based on lifestyle instead of income, it doesn't do much good to try to discuss it in terms of lifestyle, LOL.
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iVillage Member
Registered: 02-22-2007
Wed, 04-15-2009 - 1:18pm
$25K/year is MIDDLE CLASS? Woah.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 02-22-2007
Wed, 04-15-2009 - 1:21pm

>> All it describes is a point on a line. <<

Which, if one has ever taken a basic stats class, one knows is fairly meaningless out of context.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 04-22-2005
Wed, 04-15-2009 - 1:23pm
I think that was for non-family (single adult) households.
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iVillage Member
Registered: 02-07-2009
Wed, 04-15-2009 - 1:39pm

You are leaving out a whole class that falls between poor (poverty) and middle class, the working class.


Since the maximum income someone can have and qualify for EIC is about

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-22-2005
Wed, 04-15-2009 - 2:00pm
I've wondered about that. Income-wise, where does the government draw the line between poverty, working class, and middle class?
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