Daycare and infant feeding

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Daycare and infant feeding
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Tue, 01-26-2010 - 10:22am

Hi! It's been pointed out to me that this board is debating infant feeding, while the Breastmilk vs. Formula board has been debating daycares. I thought I would bring that topic here for discussion.


The questions being asked are this:


Do either BF or FF babies require more overall care at daycare?


Do either BF or FF babies require more one-on-one time at daycare?


Should there be a different fee for daycare for either BF or FF babies?


And another question that's been asked in other threads but I thought

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Wed, 01-27-2010 - 2:53pm
That's nice. BTW, I did BF my kid, but not in the approved manner is all.

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Wed, 01-27-2010 - 3:06pm
What's the approved manner?
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Wed, 01-27-2010 - 3:42pm
Exclusively, on demand and also for comfort. I did none of those.

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Wed, 01-27-2010 - 4:32pm

Hey, you expressed skepticism, I gave you some info to help you educate yourself.

 


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Wed, 01-27-2010 - 5:24pm
That was not sarcasm. No, immune issues did not figure in my decision.

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Wed, 01-27-2010 - 6:03pm

Approved by who? I wasn't under the impression that there was an "approved" method to breastfeeding. There are recommendations but no body of rules that I'm aware of. One of my kids were exclusively breastfed (i.e no bottles at all) until she started solid foods and sippy cups. Others had both breast and formula (I suck at pumping and never heard of it back in 1978 when Joy was born). Some I co slept with and others were in their own beds from practically day one. Some sucked their thumbs, one twirled his hair. Past the newborn-3 months stage, none really nursed just for comfort. In fact, Erica refused to nurse for comfort after her tear duct surgery at 4 months. She preferred to suck her thumb and cuddle with her blanket in my arms. And outside of Ezzo, I've never met anyone who didn't offer food, breast or formula, when their baby was hungry.

Chris

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Thu, 01-28-2010 - 2:29am

I did not automatically offer breast when the baby cried. I tried to keep to a schedule, within reason.

By "approved" I mean the sort of thing you will be told by LLL consultants, midwives and the like, usually pronounced with an air of great authority. I can not tell you how many times I was told that if I gave the baby a bottle, she would stop nursing. If I used any formula, my milk would dry up. That if the kid wants to nurse at night, I should let her. I was also told by several people some convoluted reason (I honestly can't remember it) for why it is good to nurse for comfort. The best, however, was the LLL person who told me to nurse every hour 24/7 to prevent clogged ducts.

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Thu, 01-28-2010 - 8:30am

I guess I didn't use the approved method either, then.

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Thu, 01-28-2010 - 10:34am

In all probability, your neighbors were required by law to boil all milk. So that's what they did. Some states ban all raw milk; some states allow for the owner of the cow to consume it's milk (cow shares allow the consumer to drink raw milk; the consumer "owns" the cow); and in some states (CA is one) allows the sale of raw milk. Cows that are allowed to roam around in pastures, eating grass, allowed to dry up and only milked as nature intended, don't pass on contaminated milk to the consumer. That's the milk that people have drank for centuries before modern factory dairy farms. Cows living in the crowed conditions of the modern dairy farm, milked to death and fed a diet of grains and soy products don't. That milk needs to be pasteurized because its easier and cheaper to do that than to allow the cows to live as they have for centuries.

Here's a brief history of milk. The site isn't non-biased but then I haven't found on that isn't and the timeline and facts are the same ones I've found on sites biased for pasteurization. http://www.raw-milk-facts.com/milk_history.html

Chris

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Thu, 01-28-2010 - 10:34am

I'm just a lurker here, but I want to address a couple of points:

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Are these people not supposed to have some kind of "authority" when it comes to BF? I don't know about you, but when I had my first baby, I was *hungry* for advice, knowledge and information I could use WRT nursing him. I never once felt that any of their methods were the only "approved" ones, however. I'm surprised that you did.

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All of the above can be very true for a lot of people, and I'll be honest: I *do* think there is a general "right" way to BF a baby. I think that there is a wide variety among appropriate and productive techniques, and I understand why some women have to EP.

But I also know that some babies WILL refuse to nurse when you start with bottles. Some babies will refuse to use bottles, for that matter (mine both did).

It's true that use of formula WILL cause your supply to decrease, and if you use it more than you nurse or pump, you absolutely DO run the risk of "drying up". The more food you offer that doesn't come from your breast, the more you signal your body to make less of it. Simple supply and demand.

Comfort nursing IS important, for many children. Mine never really did it, but there are very good reasons to offer it, none of them "convoluted", IMO.

And I personally HAVE suffered both plugged ducts and mastitis from not nursing often enough, so I disagree that LLL was wrong for telling you that.

I've been nursing non-stop for nearly 4.5 years, and I have had a lot of experiences that tell me the advice you got was not so far off the mark, for the average nursing pair.

All of this to say that I think you are putting forth some inaccurate commentary on BF here, and while I'm glad things worked out for you in whatever way you may have been happy with, others reading your post could be misinformed by some of what you're saying. If it worked for you, great. But many of your points here are, in actuality, things to keep in mind for BF success in many cases. Nothing personal, I hope you understand that.

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