Did you hear about the woman from Texas?

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Did you hear about the woman from Texas?
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Mon, 05-12-2003 - 1:32pm
My baby had a rough night and this morning, I was lying in bed next to her watching her sleep when I decided to turn on the TV to watch the Today show. They talked about this woman from Texas who murdered her baby and sons. She didn't have a history of mental illness but the act couldn't have been done by a sane person! Another post partum psychosis? A terrible tragedy...
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Mon, 05-12-2003 - 2:50pm

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Mon, 05-12-2003 - 2:56pm
The last line of the article got me "It is absolutely devastating to the neighborhood," he said.

Those poor children. My son is 6 and I can just imagine the total terror on his face. I keep trying not to visualize the fear of those children. Poor babies. She has to be mentally ill. I guess more will come out in the coming weeks. I just shudder everytime I think about it.

Kristi




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Mallory (age 3)

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Mon, 05-12-2003 - 4:56pm
Very disturbing indeed. I wonder if the two church-groups were related... I read up a lot about the Yates case, and her whole religious life was a nightmare. Her husband (in the Yates case), I mean, I'd never take the blame off of her, but he could have done a lot differently too. I don't know what the evangelics in Texas are doing wrong, but their women are killing their own babies. I bet if someone looked into to this, they'd find a religious tie between these women.

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Mon, 05-12-2003 - 4:56pm
This cannot be called postpartum depression or psychosis because her youngest was 14 months old. PPD or PPP usually shows up in the first 3 months after birth. The only time you see it up to a year after birth is in a progressive disease process (which means there should be symptoms even mild ones that develop within the first 3 months postpartum). I do believe that this woman has some sort of mental illness, but just how do you beat three children and no wake anyone up? How is it the 6 or 8 year old (whomever was not being beat during the first beating) did not alert the father or run out of the house or something. That is what I didn't understand about the Yates ordeal. Being in the metal health field I take issue with the court system and how they prosecute the mentally ill. I am a strong advocate for a ruling of Guilty but Mentally Ill in which a person gets treatment instead of prison which doesn't rehabilitate anyone (but that's a different discussion). I could talk for hours about this, but I gotta go.
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Mon, 05-12-2003 - 5:40pm
I don't know about this case or have a mental health background BUT how does the husband have no idea this was going on? I have a friend that is paranoid schzophrenia. She developed it when she was 20 and her husband knew about it. After 12 years of marriage, she became pregnant and had a little boy. He worked and she stayed home alone with the boy. ALONE. She had a mental breakdown when the child was 4 and had to be placed in a mental hospital. The family moved after that. What if something happens to the child later? The husband knows his wife is not well and does not take medication like she should. I have issues with the whole situation and I pray for that little boy.

I had the same issues with the Yates situation. She was obvisously not well and the doctors had advised she have no more children. The whole situation was tragic and has been dedbated endlessly.

I find it very difficult to believe this woman woke up one day hearing the voice of "God" telling her to kill her children and did not show signs of mental illness beforehand. I also find it hard to believe the husband slept through it. My DH wakes up if there is a creak in the house. You really have to wonder.

You also have to wonder about the similarities in the backgrounds of Andrea Yates and this woman. Evangelical church, multiple children and homeschooling. What is going on? I am not suggesting that all of that combines into muderous women (otherwise I would have quite a few friends I would worry about) but you have to wonder about the similarities. Does it have something to do with the attitudes of the churches-faith will get you through mental illness (therefore, do not seek help from the medical community), women are meant to be submissive and stay home (adding to their feelings of isolation)?




Edited 5/12/2003 5:47:30 PM ET by kmgalligan


Edited 5/12/2003 5:48:00 PM ET by kmgalligan

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Mallory (age 3)

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Tue, 05-13-2003 - 6:40am
I have had a thought since the Yeager thing ... these women were home schoolers, sincerely dedicated to their belief in God ... praised as devout Christians determined to raise up their children with God. Hmmmm .... the pressures of having devoutly religious children must have weighed heavy on them when children will do what most children do. Misbehave. These women were isolated to home and church and family. Most likely believed any act of self-indulgence, i.e., hobbies and entertainment, was thought of as over indulging when the focus had to be on the children and God. Lots of pressure to be perfect, and something had to go ... their mind.

JMHO, Linda

 

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Tue, 05-13-2003 - 7:58am
You haver a point. I don't think the similarities are a coincidence. (nt)
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Tue, 05-13-2003 - 10:27am
I agree.I've lurked on some HS boards to get ideas for extra activities at home,and while most of them seem pretty normal, there is always a group of hs whose kids are the smartest,most well-behaved, etc. due to MOM, so I think they tend to start to see their kids as reflections of the moms worth.Add some strict religion,no support systems, and it is a recipe for disaster,imo.
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Tue, 05-13-2003 - 10:39am
There's no excuse for such violence, however, I wonder how many of us would go insane being forced to homeschool 6 children and not be "allowed" to work in your profession, made to SAH. (Andrea Yates was an RN I think) It's horrible, but I always try and imagine myself with a newborn, a 1 yr old, a 3 yr old.. and 3 others, and they never go to school. I know I wouldn't do what they did but I might go a little nuts in the head!
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Tue, 05-13-2003 - 1:29pm
Maybe ... Yeates? Duh. n/t

 

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