Yes, they probably did get something out of it. Still, my general feeling about it is that homework is an educational experience in itself and that excessive parent involvement detracts from that experience. It is my opinion, and nothing more, that homework should be structured so that kids can do it themselves and in the process learn to self-motivate, organize their work, retain facts etc. I am also not a huge fan of "projects" at ages when the kids really don't have the prerequisites to know what research is or have any knowledge with which to conceive of a project. But this is clearly way off topic, lol.
You are restating it just fine. The original point was twofold, one that I have yet to see demonstrated any universal benefit to kids from having a SAHP and two that many of the benefits postulated are not direct benefits to the kids.
I think some projects can be good, but I do also think that there is value in worksheets, in part exactly because they are boring.
The first real project dd did in school was in fourth grade. It was a project that ran all year and integrated several subjects, although it was officially a geography project. Each child had to write a book about the village of a grandparent (in a Greek context this is not as crazy as it may sound, EVERYBODY has a village-except dh, lol). There were set chapters for the book and the kids worked on them at school with the help of the teachers. They were also supposed to interview family members if possible. In addition they prepared some videos having to do with the project and prepared a huge presentation which included the videos, songs, and presentation of some of the facts they had learned about the various parts of the country. However, this was done after they had spent three years becoming proficient in reading and writing, through grammar worksheets and daily dictation, as well as basic concepts of geography.
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and I still don't see why they can't be equal.
Sorry I am not sure if I responded to your reply or not.
O.K. this is getting ridiculous.
Hmm, I can't think of any
It is ot, for sure, but I
I think some projects can be good, but I do also think that there is value in worksheets, in part exactly because they are boring.
The first real project dd did in school was in fourth grade. It was a project that ran all year and integrated several subjects, although it was officially a geography project. Each child had to write a book about the village of a grandparent (in a Greek context this is not as crazy as it may sound, EVERYBODY has a village-except dh, lol). There were set chapters for the book and the kids worked on them at school with the help of the teachers. They were also supposed to interview family members if possible. In addition they prepared some videos having to do with the project and prepared a huge presentation which included the videos, songs, and presentation of some of the facts they had learned about the various parts of the country. However, this was done after they had spent three years becoming proficient in reading and writing, through grammar worksheets and daily dictation, as well as basic concepts of geography.
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