Do people need a reason to SAH?

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Do people need a reason to SAH?
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Sun, 07-18-2010 - 9:28am

This theme was touched upon in another thread and I wanted to discuss it further.

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Registered: 08-22-2009
Tue, 09-07-2010 - 8:31am
What double standard? For someone over the age of 5 to receive WIC they must fit the criteria of being pregnant or breast feeding.
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Registered: 01-08-2009
Tue, 09-07-2010 - 9:03am
It is not a double standard; women are given WIC because if they don't have enough money for good quality food, they are at increased risk for malnutrition when their bodies need extra calories when they are pregnant and/or nursing. Men do not need extra calories to make or feed babies.
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Registered: 01-15-2006
Tue, 09-07-2010 - 9:03am

by nicer, do you mean section 8 belongs in upper income neighborhoods?

 

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Registered: 01-15-2006
Tue, 09-07-2010 - 9:07am

Men do not need extra calories to make or feed babies.


ok.

 

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Registered: 02-04-2009
Tue, 09-07-2010 - 9:08am

No. I'm saying the same argument you made about Section 8 housing (It lowers property values!!!!eleventy!!!) is the same argument people made about permitting black people to buy homes where ever they wanted (It lowers property values!!!!eleventy!!!).

Of course, some people still make that argument about black people, but now it's illegal to act on that kind of ignorant prejudice. Perhaps someday the recognition that it's simply ignorant prejudice will extend to the bias against poor people.

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Registered: 07-12-2005
Tue, 09-07-2010 - 9:13am

"i think HARVARD's point is that some low income live as entitled as someone who works hard, whose own dime pays for the things they have. "

I think the negative viewpoint and outrage over people collecting government assistance is understandable from people who fall within that narrow band of income range where they make too much to qualify for any assistance, but not enough to support the same lifestyle as those who qualify for everything. I remember when we were first married, we did the math and realized that someone who made 25k less than my husband would have free healthcare for their kids, subsidized housing, and food stamps and would be left with more disposable income than we had. For that year, we were quite indignant about social service programs.

All it took was to watch our income rise a little bit to realize how foolish we were. If anything is unfair, it is that not everyone is born with the physical, mental and emotional capacity for professional careers, a loving family who encourages their achievement and models a strong work ethic, and educational opportunities to reach their dreams. Even if someone has no other obstacle than being lazy, I do not begrudge anyone their ability to simply survive on government assistance. I know our hard work will reap benefits that exceed the ability to simply survive ten times over.

(and yes, I realize that some of you know people on government assistance who are doing more than simply surviving, but I think except for extreme cases of abuse, they will be unable to sustain that lifestyle without finding a way to make an income. I would never want to be in those shoes.)

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Registered: 02-24-2009
Tue, 09-07-2010 - 9:38am
Yes, exactly, and thank you.

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Registered: 07-17-2007
Tue, 09-07-2010 - 9:38am
Ya know, in real life, the people I see who act "entitled" are on the other end of the income scale. They think they are entitled to special treatment because of the size of their pay check or bank balance.
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Registered: 07-17-2007
Tue, 09-07-2010 - 9:45am
I think it depends on the location and the % of assisted housing in the community. Plus, IME, people don't even know they are living next to a person who received housing assistance. To them it is another renter. I will allow that we have a higher % of rented properties that don't seem to lower our housing values. There is too good of a market for renting. Military, State Department, Foreign diplomats..... all contribute to the robust renter economy here.
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Registered: 06-24-2008
Tue, 09-07-2010 - 9:49am
It could be discrimination to disallow section 8 housing, I'm not familiar with the law there. I think the issue though isn't about the people who live there, if it was that would be racism and discrimination. it's mainly that people in general tend to mistreat and fail to care for property they don't pay for, entitlement tends to erode responsibility. People would rather have neighbors who worked to get there rather than entitled neighbors who have nothing to lose by trashing the place.

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