Do people need a reason to SAH?
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Do people need a reason to SAH?
| Sun, 07-18-2010 - 9:28am |
This theme was touched upon in another thread and I wanted to discuss it further.
| Sun, 07-18-2010 - 9:28am |
This theme was touched upon in another thread and I wanted to discuss it further.
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My parents actually were going to have girls that start with L and boys that start with A. They got as far as Lauren, Andrew and Leah, but then my second brother, who was supposed to be an Adam, was born and my mother had an overwhelming urge to name him Joshua. So much for that plan. :-)
Sounds like gossip to me.
Telling someone information about me and my family is friendly conversation. Sharing information about the entire neighborhood "that the couple in the cul de sac are engineers and have rented for more than ten years" is gossip.
Caveat: When we were shopping for homes, some of the sales people at new developments would list the occupations of residents. I admit that I did take notice on two levels: the level of education and whether there were other dual-WOH families. The first because I grew up in an area where education was actually frowned upon by many, and it was important to me to have my children in an area where they would have more peers whose families value education than peers whose families who didn't. The second, the dual-WOH families, was because I wanted to live in a neighborhood where social events occurred after 5 PM. That did not happen in my old neighborhood.
BUT, on an individual level, I can not imagine throwing my profession into an introduction, or asking someone I just met what they do for a living during that first conversation. The only time I ask about an occupation is if they mention something about work that makes me curious ("we have an outdoor shower because of Joe's job--I make him shower before he comes inside"). The only time I ever remember somebody volunteering what a neighbor does during a nice-to-meet-you conversation is when I complimented a neighbor on his lawn, and he mentioned that the neighbor on the other side was a professional landscaper and did it for him.
I searched states across the country for open teacher positions. Some have a range, most don't list a salary at all, some have it to the penny:
Range listed
5th Grade Teacher @ King Avenue
Salary: $37,605 - $62,479 per year
http://www.edjoin.org/viewPosting.aspx?postingID=346661&countyID=52
CPS Starting Salary Ranges* (School Year -- 40 Weeks/193 days):
$48,631 - $53,894 (B.A.) (Lane 1, Step 1 – Lane 1, Step 3)
$52,000 - $57,262 (M.A.) (Lane 2, Step 1 – Lane 2, Step 3)
$53,684 - $58,946 (M.A. +15) (Lane 3, Step 1 – Lane 3, Step 3)
$55,368 - $60,631 (M.A. +30) (Lane 4, Step 1 – Lane 4, Step 3)
$57,052 - $62,315 (M.A. +45) (Lane 5, Step 1 – Lane 5, Step 3)
$58,737 - $64,000 (Ph.D./Ed.D.) (Lane 6, Step 1 – Lane 6, Step 3)
http://www.cps-humanresources.org/Careers/salary.htm
Teacher - Mathematics
Salary: $41,623.77 to $82,101.60
http://www.teachgeorgia.org/jobDetail.aspx?id=28468
No salary listed:
http://ww2.wisconsin.gov/state/employment/app?COMMAND=gov.wi.state.cpp.job.command.ShowJobsForCategory&catId=200201151002585791560&days=7
http://www.schoolspring.com/super/superview.cfm?jid=991917&ssp=0
http://www.teachers-teachers.com/arkansas/viewArkansasJobs.cfm?go=newpostings&action=newpostings&jobload=89A5499EE6-102206-34432-31162-102206&xPos=1
http://www.njhire.com/MainTemp.cfm?page=./CTApps10/Position/PSearchResult.cfm&cfid=144771000&cftoken=F1DB47E334764C98BF4DFC1909D759D4&UserType=1
http://www.louisianaschools.net/lde/uploads/17048.pdf
http://www.educationjobsite.com/job.asp?id=26835513&aff=925A0F9A-7C85-4AAD-A3D2-5E5C81892E2F&*%20%20&utm_source=Indeed&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=Indeed
http://www.ctreap.net/job_postings/30560/CT01/CT01
http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobDetails.aspx?IPath=JRGTM0H&ff=21&APath=2.21.0.0.0&job_did=J3F2CM672SD4W3H98MH
To the penny:
http://schools.nyc.gov/NR/rdonlyres/EDDB658C-BE7F-4314-85C0-03F5A00B8A0B/0/salary.pdf
https://erecruit.per.state.vt.us/index.html
http://www.cerra.org/research/salaries.html
John W. Gardner
Ten Rules for Being Human
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I think if you have lived in a particular neighborhood for a while and socialize with the neighbors things like occupation do come up. I was talking with neighbors just the other day and was asked where I work. I had made a comment about traveling to another city for work and the neighbors asked what my job was. It was a pretty natural conversation. As for salary, I have no idea what my neighbors make. Many of them are retired. Some of them travel extensively, so I figure they must be fairly well off.
Also, I've noticed that in some groups (moms with lots of small kids especially), people do tend to volunteer that they use WIC. It always makes me slightly uncomfortable. And it makes me fairly angry when the person has just spent five minutes talking about how she could never put her kid in daycare and mothers who do are terrible parents.
"The neighbor across the street brought me cookies our second day and then pumped me for as much information as she could. A few months later she invited me to a cookie exchange where she pumped me to find out my religion and whether my dd was baptized."
She would be lonely in my neighborhood, if that was her criteria for friendship. We have Catholics, Baptists, Mormons, Muslims, Jews, Unchurched, Taoists, Methodists, Shintos, Presbyterians, Buddhists and that crazy UU family. Some in the same house. It isn't a very large neighborhood either. Maybe about 40 homes.
I think we need a Hindu family to move here.
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