Do you think that long paternity leave is unrealistic?

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Do you think that long paternity leave is unrealistic?
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Thu, 05-02-2013 - 4:04pm

According to Today, some dads think so:

The eight weeks of paid paternity leave that Yahoo male employees now receive, thanks to the company’s generous new policy, makes plenty of dads envious of all that time for bonding with baby.

Yet for many dads, the lengthy time the company is offering seems too good to be true, and maybe even unrealistic. Because while it would be a dream to have a guilt-free two month leave from work, many say they feel pressure – whether self-inflicted or external -- to get back to work.

Read more: http://www.today.com/moms/yahoos-long-paternity-leave-unrealistic-some-dads-say-6C9724866

There is no way my husband would have taken off that amount of time with any of our boys, he can barely handle a four day weekend at home ;)  In the industry he was working in, and with his supervisory responsiblities, I don't think it would have been realistic for him to take off more than a week at a time.  

What do you think?  Do you think it's more acceptable for dads to take paternity leave, or does it depend on your field of employment?

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jamblessedthree wrote:
<p><em>But that's what we would expect at a job paid for by the taxpayers ~ take 8 months paternity leave, don't work a full day without break. THAT I get!</em></p><p>My taxpayer dollars are clearly spent the wrong way based on some comments. </p>

It used to make me sad to hear about all of these abuses, lol!

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thardy2001 wrote:
Frankly, I had to lol at the notion that people in any field convince themselves working 8-9 hours without a break is unhealthy and unproductive.  But that's what we would expect at a job paid for by the taxpayers ~ take 8 months paternity leave, don't work a full day without break.  THAT I get!  But it's very different in the private sector.</p>

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Yahoo, the company giving 8 weeks paternity leave, is not a taxpayer funded company.

And for the record, my agency only receives 16% of its revenues from taxpayer resources.  The rest of our revenues are from sales. It's one of the reasons why we, so far, will not be needing to take furlough days.  The mandatory cuts only happened to the 16% appropriated for us on the Hill.

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<<Yah, that's kind of the crux behind the whole pronouncement by Marissa Meyers.  And EVERYTIME you take off on paid leave, it is fully subsidized by co-workers in private industry.  Or in your case, the federal taxpayer. >>

Wrong.  In private industry it is not fully subsidized by co-workers, it is paid for/through the company profits.  Public companies work the same way.  Public institutions that are funded through taxpayer dollars are different of course.  



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jamblessedthree wrote:
My taxpayer dollars are clearly spent the wrong way based on some comments. </p>

I doubt that the $1.50 from your teaching career goes very far at my agency.

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jamblessedthree wrote:
<p><em>But that's what we would expect at a job paid for by the taxpayers ~ take 8 months paternity leave, don't work a full day without break. THAT I get!</em></p><p>My taxpayer dollars are clearly spent the wrong way based on some comments. </p>

It used to make me sad to hear about all of these abuses, lol!

I find it hilarious to hear comments saying that some can't take 12 weeks because their depts. will just fall apart and they have a lot of responsibility with knowing things that others just don't so no one else can do their job BUUUUUUT.......they have PLENTY of time to come online and argue about stupid crap ALL.DAY.LONG almost EVERY workday Undecided

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thardy2001 wrote:
It's less about the job as you said your predecessor left for quite some time without a replacement.  Let's cut thru the -----.  You're "not thrilled" with your pay, it's a job paid for by tax dollars, no one kills herself at such a job. </p><p>Frankly, I had to lol at the notion that people in any field convince themselves working 8-9 hours without a break is unhealthy and unproductive.  But that's what we would expect at a job paid for by the taxpayers ~ take 8 months paternity leave, don't work a full day without break.  THAT I get!  But it's very different in the private sector.</p>

<<It's less about the job as you said your predecessor left for quite some time without a replacement. >> Ummm, yeah.   And many things were left undone.  And the other staff were extremely overworked in her absence.  Same as it would be if i was gone for a long period of time.  Also, since then the workload has increased (due in great part to those federal regulations I mentioend before)  without a corresponding increase in staff.

<<You're "not thrilled" with your pay, it's a job paid for by tax dollars, no one kills herself at such a job.>> I'm not thrilled, but I"m okay with it.  And I"m not killing myself at my job. 

And I call bullshit on the private sector being different.  Private sector companies I worked for had breaks - lunch breaks, coffee breaks, donuts and bagels every friday mroning, 1/2 days on friday, softball practice on company time ....

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jamblessedthree wrote:
<p><em>But that's what we would expect at a job paid for by the taxpayers ~ take 8 months paternity leave, don't work a full day without break. THAT I get!</em></p><p>My taxpayer dollars are clearly spent the wrong way based on some comments. </p>

You admit to having earned income...aka a job?  

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thardy2001 wrote:
That is simply untrue.  Scheduled breaks, as in plural ~ simply not true.  When was the last time you worked in the private sector? </p>

I worked in the private sector from 1992 to 2005. 

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savcal2011 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">thardy2001</em> wrote:</div>Why is it unhealthy, unproductive ?? and makes for an unbearable workplace?  &lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Because 8-9 hours straight of complex, sometimes stressful, brain-tasking work with no breather creates enough stress that it becomes unbearable.  If you've never experience that, good for you.  But the fact that most companies allow (or even require) breaks throughout the day support my stance.  Shoot, many of the top companies in the world now allow nap breaks or even provide nap rooms. Or walking breaks and walking paths, etc, etc, etc ...</p>

That is simply untrue.  Scheduled breaks, as in plural ~ simply not true.  When was the last time you worked in the private sector?>>

Sorry Hardy, your comments are the ones that are untrue.  Scheduled breaks are very much a part of a work day, some states even have regulations that mandate them in the public and private sector.   

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springfever2013 wrote:
<blockquote><div style="font-weight:bold"><em>jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;But that's what we would expect at a job paid for by the taxpayers ~ take 8 months paternity leave, don't work a full day without break. THAT I get!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My taxpayer dollars are clearly spent the wrong way based on some comments. &lt;/p&gt;</blockquote><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"></p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">It used to make me sad to hear about all of these abuses, lol!</p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"><strong>I find it hilarious to hear comments saying that some can't take 12 weeks because their depts. will just fall apart and they have a lot of responsibility with knowing things that others just don't so no one else can do their job <span style="font-size:large">BUUUUUUT</span>.......they have PLENTY of time to come online and argue about stupid crap ALL.DAY.LONG almost EVERY workday <img src="/forums/sites/all/libraries/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-undecided.gif" alt="Undecided" title="Undecided" border="0" /></strong></p>

I find it funny that you can't come up with a better diversion after all these years, really shows a lack of creativity on your part.  So sad.

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