Does America want Moms to stay at home?

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Registered: 03-02-2005
Does America want Moms to stay at home?
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Mon, 12-12-2005 - 11:28am
It was actually dh that suggested that America (gov't I suppose) wants Moms to stay at home. From what I have learned from these boards daycare is hideously expensive and maternity leave is very short. Many have said they couldn't afford to work because of daycare costs. Compare this to Canada where we have $7 a day daycare and Quebec is increasing maternity leave to 2 years at 55% pay or 1 year at 75% pay in January. With the $7 a day daycare Moms can easily afford to work, and with the paid maternity leave Moms can easily afford to stay home. It seems that in the states you're 'forced' into situations because it's your only option. Can't afford daycare? Stay at home. Maternity leave too short or have to work to support the family? Go back to work. Would any of you prefer if it would be easier financially to make either decision like it seems to be in Canada or are you fine with how it is?

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Registered: 12-29-1999
Wed, 12-14-2005 - 8:45pm
Annnd how many years did he go to school to get qualified to look in their mouth, clean their teeth, and do the check up? It's not like Joe Blow can do a root canal. Jobs requiring extensive education and skills pay accordingly.
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Registered: 12-29-1999
Wed, 12-14-2005 - 8:49pm
How much do you think a doctor who is inserting a needle into your spine and delivering anesthesia deserves? I mean, an epidural ISN'T a medical necessity, lots of women give birth w/o it.
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Registered: 03-31-2003
Wed, 12-14-2005 - 8:52pm

I'm betting he's writing it all to the endo diagnosis. That's covered whether it is IF-related or not, b/c it is a systemic disease. Oral IF meds are usually covered because they are in the formulary, but if they are actually covering injectibles and the supplies that go with them in this state, then I'm seriously surprised. If you move to IVF, all bets are probably off. I'm not touching any of it myself; I just can't justify spending all that money for something that may or may not work; it would be a huge chunk of our retirement or DS' college fund.

Gastric bypass *was* getting paid by most insurance cos. up until about 18 mos ago, when a new survey of the mortality rate came out. Now they are getting much pickier about when they will cover it; usually only if multiple docs say that you are in immediate danger of dying from collateral conditions.

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Registered: 03-31-2003
Wed, 12-14-2005 - 9:11pm

You're asking her a little late. I live where she does, and our last surviving public hospital closed years ago.

The university hospitals here (we have two med schools in the metro area) take a certain number of charity patients each year, but when they have hit their quota, it's bye-bye Charlie unless you're dying in the ER. They will stabilize you and send you home if medicaid or medicare won't pay for hospitalization.

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Registered: 09-15-2003
Wed, 12-14-2005 - 9:39pm

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I'm not sure. I would have to think about that.


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This may sound cruel, but I would not be entirely keen on funding some gastic bypass surgeries or chemo for 3 pack a day smokers. I would be more inclined to want to help the children or parents with an illness that was a genetic ticking time bomb (like MS), rather than something that can be prevented, like obesity. For most all cases, I would be inclined to help if there was a community fundraiser or something of the sort. Less inclined if the goverment *told* me I had to help ALL 3 pack a day smokers, KWIM?


Meldi
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Registered: 09-15-2003
Wed, 12-14-2005 - 9:41pm

Aren't we all just messin' around? Glass or two of wine, nice and relaxed chatting...


Meldi
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Wed, 12-14-2005 - 9:41pm

If you want things to be "fair" then all you have to do is have to do is have your DH change to a job that pays $30,000, you stay home and then you will only have to pay $112 in taxes.

I have lived in both worlds, the one where the taxable income is close to nil after deduction so we had very little tax liability and the world we live in now where our tax liabilty is more then we grossed in some previous years. I prefer the later, a large enough income to warrent a higher libility.

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Registered: 11-12-2003
Wed, 12-14-2005 - 9:46pm
The bill for dd and I after she got home from the hospital was more than $60k. It's insane.
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Registered: 12-29-2004
Wed, 12-14-2005 - 9:49pm
I sort of KWYM, but OTOH what kind of health care system would it be where some panel of concerned citizens sits in judgment as some kind of ad hoc ethics panel and decides which member of the deserving poor gets treated and which doesn't. Especially in a country where chain smokers and obese people who happen to have coverage get treated no questions asked.
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Registered: 04-05-2003
Wed, 12-14-2005 - 9:56pm

"we just don't learn as much about those things in canada"

Please stop using your own experience to tell people in the US how things work in the whole of Canada. First with the $7/day daycare and now with compound interest. I learned about it in Grade 4, not 3rd year university. And I pay a hell of a lot more than $7/day for daycare.

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