Fathers have a choice

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Fathers have a choice
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Tue, 07-25-2006 - 1:45pm

I was flipping through the channels this morning when I came across one of those baby shows. I think it was called Bringing home Baby or something like that. Anyway, the part that caught my attention was where they were changing the baby (actually she was doing the changing. He was just standing and watching) She then made the comment that he "doesn't do diapers". She then goes on to say her dad didn't either and try to come up with some reasons why some dad's don't do it and how they can't handle it, blah, blah, blah. The new dad then piped in that he couldn't stand the smell and he just doesn't do them. She then says...some dads do and some dads don't.

So I sat there and thought.....Why does dad get a *choice* in it at all? Why do they get to *opt out* of the diaper changing duties? What if the mom decided she couldn't stand the smell as well? Would the child then stay in a dirty diaper for the next two years until he is potty trained or until one of them broke own and changed the poor child? Why would a mom think that changing a diaper was an opional assignment for the dad?

Anyway....it's not really sah/woh. But I thought it a good debate topic.....Why do dads get the choice to *opt out* of parenting duties? And why would moms let them do it?

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Thu, 08-03-2006 - 5:06pm

<< You can not have talks with dictators in the Middle East.>>

So we should overthrow them, and in the process accept the loss of life of thousands of our brave American troops, and innocent Iraqi civilians. No thanks.

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Absolutely not. But what did BinLaden have to do with Iraq? I though the war was on terror, not on a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. Did you buy into that baloney that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? President Bush used the tragedy of 9/11 to finish a war in Iraq that his daddy never got to finish, period.

<< Do you really believe that those with the belief that lying to the enemy to win at war would ever be productive?>>

I would like to ask you, do you believe invading and occupying another country is the way to stop the radical terrorist who hate America?

Julia

Julia

Proud Mommy of Macey and Reece

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Thu, 08-03-2006 - 5:16pm
"if you arent with us you are against us" that is the most worn out crap filled line to come out of the bush admin and there have been alot of them. while i am very pro american you would be hard pressed to find anyone more anti bush than i am - i havent agreed with a single thing the nut has done since he has been in office and believe that most of what he has done has weakened and threatened our country to the point i wonder if leaders in the future will ever be able to restore all the things he has damaged. if you really think that anything they believe in is important to us then i dont know what to say. you do realize if someone we did not support had gotten elected in iraq we would have found a way to dispose of them as well. as it was we only provided total protection in those areas that were believed to be likely to vote the way we wanted them to. hamas was democratically elected, yet because we dont like them we refuse to support them - we arent after democracy we are after putting into place people we think will tow the united states line - you would think we would have learned our lesson that that doesnt work - afterall, your friends today will be your enemies tomorrow - think saddam
Jennie
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Thu, 08-03-2006 - 5:19pm
when bush goes out and declares war on a country does he say "i george bush and the republican party are declaring war on you" or does he say "the united states is declaring war on you"
Jennie
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Thu, 08-03-2006 - 5:24pm
Well, I am a Christian, and while I might not agree with your choice of atheism, I still consider you a real American.
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Thu, 08-03-2006 - 5:26pm

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ME ;)

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Scary thought, isn't it?

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Coincidence, I think not ;)

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I could not of said it any better. Good point.

Julia

Julia

Proud Mommy of Macey and Reece

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Thu, 08-03-2006 - 5:34pm

Actually I don't think he can declare war, it has to be approved by congress, doesn't it?

PumpkinAngel

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Thu, 08-03-2006 - 5:53pm
okay, if you wanna get technical :) but you got my point. by being elected by the majority of the people in this country he does speak for this country, does he not? while i agree that he doesnt speak for me, if you are someone living in another country, especially a third world country and someone says the united states is going to start dropping bombs on you what do you think?
Jennie
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Thu, 08-03-2006 - 5:56pm
why would you not agree with her choice to be an atheist? not that you have to make the same choice, but isnt her choice just as valid as your choice to be a christian? i have no desire to be catholic, but i dont disagree with the choice of those who are
Jennie
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Thu, 08-03-2006 - 6:24pm
Actually you can have talks with dictators in the Middle East. And hammer out deals in the process. I'm talking about the House of Saud, our most loathsome "best friends" who have absolutely nothing in common with us but a desire to do business. They most definately hate our way of life and literally everything about us but our money. But they have product and we have cash, so we talk and talk and deal and deal.
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Thu, 08-03-2006 - 6:31pm
Yup. Same God. Not for nothing was the term Judeo-Christian coined to describe this shared legacy. And in fact Allah is the same too. Part of being monotheistic is believing that since there is only one God, not many, everybody else who is also monotheistic is worshipping the exact same one.

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