FLDS children, fostering, and SAH/WOH

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FLDS children, fostering, and SAH/WOH
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Fri, 04-18-2008 - 10:53pm

It has been ruled that the state will retain custody of the FLDS children and that they will begin placement in foster homes. How do you feel about (among the many things to consider) the work status of potential foster parents? If both parents WOH, then the children will be in either daycare or school for part of the day. I don't think that these children are emotionally equipped to deal with that environment. If one parent can SAH however, I think a smoother transition could be made from the seclusion of the ranch to the introduction of the outside world through homeschooling. Can you imagine sending an 11-year-old FLDS girl into a public school classroom? She'd be eaten alive!

Thoughts?

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Sat, 04-19-2008 - 4:43am

I admit that I am taken aback that all the kids are being "confiscated." It is hard for me to understand how the state can determine that all these kids are at such grave risk that parental rights should be revoked.

OTOH, I am not sure that sah/woh is all that crucial in selecting foster families. What would be more important, I would think, would be to have psychologists following and supporting these children as well as some sort of contact with their birth mothers. If a mother left the sect and entered mainstream society, for example, why should she not get her child back?

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Sat, 04-19-2008 - 5:23am

given some rather profound issues, not the least of which would be the status of their education, I can't imagine leaving the children to the vagaries of homeschooling. While some homeschoolers are quite excellent, some others are NOT and there's going to be MANY issues here to be overcome, not just the possibility of being behind (or ahead as the case might be) scholastically.

I think it's far more likely that, given the extremely large numbers of children taken and being placed, they will be providing some kind of bridge schooling that address the children's needs while preparing them to enter public schools next fall.

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Sat, 04-19-2008 - 8:24am

I think some kind of special schooling arrangements need to be made for these kids.

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Sat, 04-19-2008 - 9:06am
Is there a news story or something about this? I think the transition is going to tremendously difficult no matter the foster parents' work status. If I've guessed correctly at the situation, I don't know how they could be immediately placed at a school. Maybe they should, if possible, consider hiring private tutors to get them up to speed? I think the transition would probably be easiest on the kids if they were placed with devout mainstream LDS families, but I don't know how that would work . . .
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Sat, 04-19-2008 - 10:30am
Maybe they could do a hybrid. Many schools have Virtual Academies available to them where they are assigned to a teacher, but the work is done at home. k12 has a program that we are using next year.
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Sat, 04-19-2008 - 11:26am
I think that makes a great deal of sense and would be very helpful to help the kids bridge into public schooling at some later date if they want.

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Sat, 04-19-2008 - 12:46pm
I like the hybrid idea and the tutoring idea. Where would the children be while the foster parents are at work, though?
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Sat, 04-19-2008 - 1:57pm

I'll be the one person here to bring up the other side of this issue, Not that I necessarily agree with thier lifestyle or that I condone abuse of those kids. But what if there really wasn't a 16 yr old with a complaint? what if the cases of teens getting married and having babies doesn't apply with every family living on that compound? Is it fair to take every child on a group basis without interviewing and deciding on a case by case basis?


I personally believe that they should go case by case and if the women are willing to leave the compound and that lifestyle, then they should be given thier kids back. That proves to me at least a little they truely care and love thier kids and want what is best for them.


If this is allowed that we take kids from families because of religous beliefs then what is to stop the government from taking kids from amish families. They are recluse just as the kids on the compound. From what I understand 8th grade is the highest level of education that they have. They marry relatively young and reproduce just to full fill what they think God is calling them to do for thier lives. Should we take their kids too?


We could look at every part of the world and find fault with their lifestyle or religion. Does being different in the way they dress or the way they believe make it ok to take their kids?

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Sat, 04-19-2008 - 2:45pm
That is my problem with it too. Apparently, the main issue is that the girls are likely to be married off willy-nilly as young teens. That is obviously not right, but about 100+ kids taken into custody are under 4.
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Sat, 04-19-2008 - 2:58pm

No slams here! My one true concern in that compound is the statutory rape going on. While I may disagree with their beliefs, habits, lifestyle, plural marriage, etc, all of that is really NONE of my or anyone's business. But the practice of child brides has to stop. They can practice their religion freely. They can have as many babies as they want. Adults can marry as many adults as they want. They can read scriptures and worship and wear what they want. But there is NOTHING in their religion that says that the brides have to be underage. And if they agree to keep the children out of child marriage (and that it can be proven that no statutory rape is going on from now on), then absolutely yes I think they should get their children back.

And they couldn't do the cases on a family by family basis because there is so much confusion about who is related to who and how. DNA testing should clear that up I hope.

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