FLDS children, fostering, and SAH/WOH

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FLDS children, fostering, and SAH/WOH
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Fri, 04-18-2008 - 10:53pm

It has been ruled that the state will retain custody of the FLDS children and that they will begin placement in foster homes. How do you feel about (among the many things to consider) the work status of potential foster parents? If both parents WOH, then the children will be in either daycare or school for part of the day. I don't think that these children are emotionally equipped to deal with that environment. If one parent can SAH however, I think a smoother transition could be made from the seclusion of the ranch to the introduction of the outside world through homeschooling. Can you imagine sending an 11-year-old FLDS girl into a public school classroom? She'd be eaten alive!

Thoughts?

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Sun, 04-20-2008 - 1:03pm
If a person is in the habit of giving their 14-year-old daughters to have sex and babies with a 50-year-old man, you think we should give her children back to her?
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Sun, 04-20-2008 - 1:07pm
It's sad, but TPR (termination of parental rights) happens more here than you'd want to know. On the upside, this is unlikely to happen if the parents go through counseling and promise NOT to arrange or support underage sex.
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Sun, 04-20-2008 - 1:07pm
I think that it is profoundly wrong to push for an American Citizen to be stripped of his or her rights because we don't like what they have been ACCUSED of doing. Rights are not only for people we like, you know. And there's that crazy thing where people are innocent until proven otherwise. We don't get to force DNA tests and all that jazz. The ends don't justify the means.
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Sun, 04-20-2008 - 1:24pm
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Sun, 04-20-2008 - 1:31pm
Um, how are we supposed to find out whether or not they've done what they're accused of doing (allowing men to have sex with children) without the DNA tests if they keep lying about who is who? And we know at least *someone* is guilty of child sexual abuse, because there are some 13 and 14-year-olds that are pregnant.
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Sun, 04-20-2008 - 1:39pm

Why do you think this would be different than any other case using DNA evidence? In a murder trial, I'm guessing DNA is used to match an accused criminal to a crime. I'm betting the law provides that the accused criminal can refuse to provide a DNA sample (or can s/he?), and if so the jury gets to know about that refusal. I imagine it would be the same in this sort of trial.

On the other hand, if I refuse to submit to a breathalyser test, my license is taken away automatically even if I haven't been drinking. So maybe the people who refuse would automatically have their children taken away. But of course, I signed something agreeing that I would submit to a breathalyser test or my license would be taken away, and these people didn't sign a similar agreement.

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Sun, 04-20-2008 - 4:58pm
You think it's not a violation of their rights to extract/test DNA without permission?
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Sun, 04-20-2008 - 5:04pm
Any other trial would need a parent to give permission. Since noone knows, I guess they are at an impasse. Even so, I don't think there is any good reason to violate Constitutional rights against illegal search and seizure, even if people think there should be exceptions. People who think that make me ashamed.
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Sun, 04-20-2008 - 5:15pm

I'm sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about. Illegal search and seizure?

You're worried about the constitutional rights of minors being violated by testing their DNA-- not the parents? Aren't there provisions, for example in cases of neglect and abuse, where an advocate or something can be appointed to consent instead of the parents?

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Sun, 04-20-2008 - 5:41pm

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