FLDS children, fostering, and SAH/WOH

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FLDS children, fostering, and SAH/WOH
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Fri, 04-18-2008 - 10:53pm

It has been ruled that the state will retain custody of the FLDS children and that they will begin placement in foster homes. How do you feel about (among the many things to consider) the work status of potential foster parents? If both parents WOH, then the children will be in either daycare or school for part of the day. I don't think that these children are emotionally equipped to deal with that environment. If one parent can SAH however, I think a smoother transition could be made from the seclusion of the ranch to the introduction of the outside world through homeschooling. Can you imagine sending an 11-year-old FLDS girl into a public school classroom? She'd be eaten alive!

Thoughts?

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Registered: 07-23-2003
Wed, 04-23-2008 - 9:21am


Lets say in a family of 5 there is a report of child abuse on one of the 5.

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Registered: 08-23-2007
Wed, 04-23-2008 - 10:54am

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Well I am listening to the accounts of other's that have escaped these cults and they tell a different story than what is being reported to and by the media.


Again...how do you know these are 30 yr old mothers?

 

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Registered: 08-23-2007
Wed, 04-23-2008 - 10:58am

<<Knowledge of a crime does not make one an accessory, sorry.>>


This is incorrect.

 

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Registered: 09-05-2007
Wed, 04-23-2008 - 11:29am
Ok. Makes absolutely zero sense, but if that's your opinion, that's your opinion. Do you think that if your next door neighbor is arrested for child abuse, they should be able to take your kids too?
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Registered: 07-23-2003
Wed, 04-23-2008 - 11:34am

<Ok. Makes absolutely zero sense, but if that's your opinion, that's your opinion. Do you think that if your next door neighbor is arrested for child abuse, they should be able to take your kids too? >


What makes absolutely zero sense?


And I don't think a neighborhood is the same as this compound.

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Registered: 09-05-2007
Wed, 04-23-2008 - 11:35am

>>Again...how do you know these are 30 yr old mothers? We don't know who the mother's of these children are. <<

We DO know that many of them are adult mothers. Unless you think a less than a dozen teenagers can pump out 400+ children? It's physically impossible for the majority of these kids to have teenage mothers.

>> That is the problem. For that matter...do you think it is acceptable to raise these children with the theory that as a man you are entitled to marry as many women as you would like, and that as women you are nothing more than a baby factory?<<

Why does it matter what I think? The nice thing about America is that supposedly we get to decide for ourselves what theories we raise our kids with. It's amazing that you think it's fine for the government to impose how you think kids should be raised on them, while you know for a FACT that if they tried to impose something on you, you would be crying foul in a millisecond. I don't want to live in a country where You get to tell me that I CAN'T teach my children that women should be subservient. Or that I can't teach my children atheism. Or whatever. This is not the government's role. You can whine and moan all you like about how you DISLIKE their way of life, but the laws are around to protect us all, not just people like you.

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Registered: 07-23-2003
Wed, 04-23-2008 - 11:38am
This is NOT about religion.

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Registered: 09-05-2007
Wed, 04-23-2008 - 11:39am

>>This is incorrect. KNOWING someone does something illegal and doesn't report it does make you an accessory. It is called accessory after the fact.<<

No, it's not. Simply KNOWING means nothing. "ACCESSORY AFTER THE FACT - Whoever, knowing that an offense has been committed,**** receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender*** in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact."

Although I'm glad you think you know something about it! Next time try someone who hasn't spent the last year in criminal justice classes.

>>Yes it is very legal.<<

Simply saying so doesn't make it so. Explain to me WHY you think it's legal to remove children from people who have done nothing illegal. (Since they aren't accessories.)

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Registered: 09-05-2007
Wed, 04-23-2008 - 11:42am

It makes no sense to equate a community to a family. It's a bad analogy.

And have you seen pictures of the "compound"? It looks like a regular neighborhood, with separate houses.

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Registered: 09-05-2007
Wed, 04-23-2008 - 11:47am

Where did I say it's about religion? Does it matter how I want to raise my kids? Why should you get to choose? Many people ON THIS BOARD teach their children that the woman's place is in the home. You think that should be illegal?

What I think should have been done, is that only the children suspected of being offspring of underage mothers should have been removed. Well, that and they should have had more evidence to go in in the first place. One phone call that turned out to be someone outside the community pretending to be inside seems a bit weak to me. That's ok, Texas can count on mass hysteria and bigotry to support their case.

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