Full-time Nanny with SAHP - Why?

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Full-time Nanny with SAHP - Why?
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Tue, 02-10-2004 - 6:41pm
Something I've often wondered about, but never had the opportunity to ask. Why do SAHM or SAHD need a full time nanny, especially when they aren't working from home. I can easily see the need if the SAHP is a WAHP, but what is the logic for a full time nanny otherwise?

Any comments?

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Registered: 07-21-2003
Fri, 02-20-2004 - 8:34am
"Suggesting "for argument's sake" to dismiss everything she said as irrelevant is NOT attacking her position. It's attempting to avoid attacking it, and I think we all know why you would prefer NOT to address her arguments, as you've nothing with which to rebut them."

That is SOOO NOT TRUE! I wasn't "dismissing everything she said", I was reminding her that we aren't talking about SAHM's with extenuating circumtances like terminally ill or handicapped children or relatives. That's a different argument, and actually that couldn't even be an argument, I don't think you could find anyone who wouldn't agree that someone in those circumstances doesn't need help.

We are talking about SAHM's who don't NEED nannies. If you are still confused or doubt me, go back and read the original post.

You're always so sure of yourself, which makes it all the more embarrassing for you when you are WRONG!

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Registered: 07-21-2003
Fri, 02-20-2004 - 8:38am
Well then you would be wrong. I don't think there's anything wrong with being separated from your children for an hour or 2 a day when you're a SAHM, I always was, that's how long I worked out every day. And then of course after they turned 3 they were in preschool for 3 hours a day, but they were there for their benefit, not mine.

For the 900th time, I think their is something wrong with a SAHM leaving her kids in othercare for MOST of the day, like over 6 hours. Do you have a mental block with this or something?


Edited 2/20/2004 8:40:55 AM ET by islimshady

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Registered: 07-21-2003
Fri, 02-20-2004 - 8:43am
Just curious, your youngest is in preschool, and your others are in elementary, so why do you use childcare on top of that? Isn't 3 or 4 hours a day to yourself enough?


Edited 2/20/2004 8:45:26 AM ET by islimshady
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Registered: 07-21-2003
Fri, 02-20-2004 - 8:49am
Let's remind everyone of a minor point here yet again, shall we?

NO ONE is opposed to volunteering. They are opposed to volunteering in lieu of caring for your children. So, if you can volunteer and care for kids simultaneously, as we all should be able to, or volunteer when they're in school, or volunteer when the other parent can watch them, or volunteer when they're grown, that's a heckuva lot of time left for volunteering.

Good god are people dense?

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Registered: 07-21-2003
Fri, 02-20-2004 - 8:57am
My take is that it's not a volunteer position. You are getting paid, regardless of whether that pay is covering all your expenses, it's putting a huge dent in them, and I don't know that you would do what you're doing without pay.

Personally I wouldn't do it, because I would never but my kids in othercare when I didn't need to, especially if it made them unhappy. But then again according to some here that would be giving into my children's whims and I ought to be teaching them a lesson that their desires don't come first, the underprivileged kids of the worlds do, at least in my eyes.

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Registered: 07-21-2003
Fri, 02-20-2004 - 9:02am
Well I have to agree with you there, if the best job I was capable of getting was clerk at WalMart I might not make the effort either.

BTW, you sound just like my SIL (who's former salary was over 100K). For some reason she can no longer find a job that pays well enough to even cover taxes. Isn't that amazing how that works? I'd love to hear the explaination for that one.

Could some of the tax experts on this board help out and explain how incredibly absurd that argument is?

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Registered: 07-21-2003
Fri, 02-20-2004 - 9:04am
Why would you need to pay for childcare if you got a part time job while your kids were in school?
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Registered: 07-21-2003
Fri, 02-20-2004 - 9:08am
Finally, the voice of reason. Someone gets it, you understand completely.

I was beginning to think we were speaking in two different languages here.

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Registered: 07-21-2003
Fri, 02-20-2004 - 9:15am
My opinion is based on both, they are 2 entirely different situations and we were only discussing SAHMs who hired help, until you brought up the subject of sah without savings. For the record, I have strong opinions on both of those entirely different subjects.

I don't think that any parent should SAH when the kids are in school when they need money for savings. No one is entitled to sit on their a$$, especially if their children could use money for college or they cold use money for retirement or if their parents could use money in their old age. If they have plenty of savings, then of course their is no need for the extra income a job would bring.

I don't think any SAHM should put their children in othercare for 40 hours a week so that they can pursue non essential activities.

I don't know how to make my positions any clearer than that.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 02-20-2004 - 9:32am
Explain that to anyone who has ever benefitted from Doctors Without Borders.

Explain that to the thousands of police, firemen and civilians who benefitted from the Red Cross stations immediately following 9-11.

Explain that to the folks in California who benefitted from the support folks who volunteered to support the hundreds of out of state firefighters who battled all those fires last fall.

Explain that to any child in a burn unit who has had a volunteer tending, cuddling and sitting with them hour after hour because no hospital in the world has the paid staff to offer that level of one-on-one care.

Explain that to any mother of a sick who has had volunteers come and spot them for rocking time so Mom and Dad could get a shower, a meal and some sleep.

Explain that to any military family who has had people check on them when their loved ones are deployed, when their loved ones are sick, injured or killed.

Explain that to the MILLIONS of people every single stinking day who have volunteers ready, willing and able to take that 40 hours a week and BE there for them.

Cuz I ain't buyin' it.

Maybe they will.

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