how do i convince my husband

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how do i convince my husband
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Mon, 07-18-2005 - 4:09pm
how do i convince my husband to let me at least job-share so i can take care of our 3 month old dd? he grew up with his mom working & all his friend's moms working. we can afford it if we cut back on some things, but he doesn't want to cut back & just doesn't understand someone wanting to be a stay at home mom...it doesn't help mycause that the grandmothers will babysit. i'm so unhappy about having to go back to work...he wants me to work full time 1 more year & just doesn't get it! i feel like my heart is being ripped from my chest every time i hink about it.

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Registered: 07-20-2004
Tue, 08-09-2005 - 1:44pm

*He* "went" to bed?


Or was *he* "put" to bed?


He fell asleep around that time (anywhere from 6:50-ish on), whether he was in his bed, my bed, my arms, my frontpack, the floor, his chair, the carseat.....

Karen

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Tue, 08-09-2005 - 1:46pm

There you go, you poster child for the selfish WOHM.


Shame, shame putting your need for food and shelter and work ahead of the continual

"I do not want to be a princess! I want to be myself"

Mallory (age 3)

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Tue, 08-09-2005 - 1:58pm

"Many people believe them to be historical."

Historical??? How so? Do you mean historical fiction?

"Others see them as allegorical or mythological."

Yes.

"A "myth" is not fiction"

I disagree. I think a "myth" is fiction, as it certainly isn't non fiction.

"in the sense of the literary genre of fiction today. Neither is an allegory."

It is still fiction in the sense of fiction.

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Registered: 03-16-2005
Tue, 08-09-2005 - 1:59pm
Right, a 30 minute bus ride is likely no big whoop. The afternoon kindy kids who were within walking distance in my school (but for having to cross a busy road) were falling asleep on the nearly-hour-long bus ride in until they split that route in half. That was a fairly big whoop to many parents, who often walked them there instead.
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Tue, 08-09-2005 - 2:06pm

"Maybe I need more coffee, but all I've been hearing is how SAHM's don't work compared to yesteryear. NOT that people in general don't"

It's not the coffee :)

"- unless I'm "half of us" since I was the one who made the comment she quoted... If it had been made clear that people in general 'don't work compared to...' I don't think this would have been made into an issue."

Yes, I agree.

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Tue, 08-09-2005 - 2:10pm
It is historical in the sense that it accurately depicts daily life at the time and also accurately depicts ecomomical and governmental activities. These aspects of the Bible have been verified by archeologists.
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Tue, 08-09-2005 - 2:17pm
Do you believe that objective truth exists?

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Tue, 08-09-2005 - 2:18pm
You do know how silly this is, considering who you are disagreeing with here?

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Tue, 08-09-2005 - 2:24pm

I actually managed to find the excerpt online that you were talking about and I have to say that you did a very good job of representing what Harris was saying. So there you go...I just plain disagree with her :-).

As for Pinker's comments....I did a very short google on him and he seems to be heavily involved in the highly controversial push to get rid of bilingual education for immigrant entirely. There is some evidence out there that would indicate that the California measure has not been as successful as it has been portrayed and a fair amount of evidence that fostering both the home and school languages are more likely to lead to educational success. So let's just say I'm skeptical :-). But what really just leads me to dismiss him completely is this:

"A strange factoid in our True-but-Inconvenient file is the children always end up with the language and accent of their peers, not of their parents."

I know far too many adults who grew up completely bilingual with an excellent grasp of their parents' language and accent to take this at all seriously. I also know plenty of people who can (and do) switch back and forth between their family's dialect and the dialect of where they live within a single language.

Also:

" Children lean a language even in the many cultures in which adults don't speak to them; they do just fine listening to their slightly older peers. Children who are not exposed to a full-blown grammatical language from adults can create one among themselves. And children of immigrants pick up the language from the playground so well that they are soon ridiculing their parents' grammatical errors."

In my experience (and the experience of many of my friends) this is also not true in the simple fashion he states it to be. While peer interaction is important for helping to foster the acquisition of a second language, adult input, which usually involves a much larger vocabularly combined with a more sophisticated use of grammar, is equally important for fostering a complete grasp of the second language. The playground effect, tends to lead to a fairly simplistic use of the new language. At the age of 5 or 6 or 7, peer-to-peer language interactions are simply not adequate.

Anyway, I really wasn't trying to needle you, I promise :-)! I found your comments and your interpretation of Harris's intent very interesting as well. Multilingualism is one of those issues that are just so much more complex than one realises at first. If you are ever interested in a more comprehensive overview I found the following link highly interesting:

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:y-48j7hNmgkJ:www.nichd.nih.gov/crmc/cdb/Childhood-Bilingualism_2005.pdf+bilingualism+nurture+assumption+criticism&hl=sv

Btw, the Polish kid's experience with learning English was pretty nearly identical to ds's experience with learning Swedish :-).

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Tue, 08-09-2005 - 2:32pm

Weird but true: I speak German imperfectly but without an accent (well, ok, I currently speak German with a rather southern accent, when I lived in Vienna I sounded perfectly Viennese and after 3 years in Zurich I had an absolutely spot-on Züridütch accent). My Swedish accent is identifiably from the region I live in (shopkeepers routinely ask why I speak English with my kids). I don't know why I can pick up accents this way (I learned German and Swedish as an adult). I was bilingual Spanish-English as a child and don't know if perhaps that had some kind of impact on my ability to hear the subtle differences. The long-term consequences of growing up multilingual have not been adequately studied.

I have to laugh about the teenage vocabulary, though. I have already informed ds and dd's cousins that it is their responsibility to pull the kids aside and teach them all of the slang and swear-words that I (as a parent) can't in all good conscience do :-),

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