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how do i convince my husband
| Mon, 07-18-2005 - 4:09pm |
how do i convince my husband to let me at least job-share so i can take care of our 3 month old dd? he grew up with his mom working & all his friend's moms working. we can afford it if we cut back on some things, but he doesn't want to cut back & just doesn't understand someone wanting to be a stay at home mom...it doesn't help mycause that the grandmothers will babysit. i'm so unhappy about having to go back to work...he wants me to work full time 1 more year & just doesn't get it! i feel like my heart is being ripped from my chest every time i hink about it.

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"If we're talking about pumping/storing and bottle feeding anyway then I'd agree. However, given the necessary cleaning, filling, storing, toting etc. of using bottles versus lifting a shirt, I'd have to say it's definately more convenient to breastfeed."
As would I.
"What I would say is *inconvenient* is it being necessary for a nursing mother to work away from her offspring making nursing into something more difficult. Nursing is a biological norm- a mother working away from her nursing child is *not*."
Absolutely!!! You hit the nail right on the head!!!
"I'd say it's the other way around.... There is nothing convenient about a healthy adult capable of breastfeeding being required to function as required breadwinner on the side. But hey- tom-ay-to/tom-ah-to I guess... "
I wholeheartedly agree :) Indeed, "There is nothing convenient about a healthy adult capable of breastfeeding being required to function as required breadwinner on the side."
"***Feeding babies does not impvrove ones manual labour output.***
"How... capitalist..."
Yes, I would have to agree, quite capitalist ;)
"IMO it shouldn't be necessary for a nursing mother to work to allow her family to survive and thrive. That it is isn't a "good thing" in our society IMO. (Note: I make a distinction here between *having* to work and *wanting* to work for either personal fulfillment or the grandiose idea that "more is better"...)"
You are certainly on a roll here!
***Breast feeding is merely good enough to keep enough babies fed and able to reach reproduction age to keep the species from dying out. Thats all.***
"Actually that's not all. Given our capitalist society, let's talk about the bottom line for a moment- breastfeeding reduces both childs and *mothers* risk of various illnesses/disease etc. and in so doing saves money for pretty much everyone involved."
You are correct. Great Post BTW!
There are many, many ways of understanding Scripture. Genesis may be understood, for instance, as the Word of God to an Ancient People. Or as an allegory, or a myth, or as a literal account. Or something else entirely. But there is no denying that it is a myth of ancient peoples that reflects their understanding that the created order/natural order is orderly, comprehensible to the human mind and separate from the Creator. Some mythological systems personify natural objects -- i.e., the sun and moon are living beings. The Genesis account sees creation as outside the realm of personality. In that, it is not in direct conflict with modern science. The Genesis account sees an underlying orderliness to the creation of the universe. In that, it is not unlike modern science. The Genesis account asks one to take on faith certain basic tenets of the framework of the story. In that, it is not unlike modern science, which also is a mythological system requiring faith on the part of the observer/researcher that the truth is both out there and accessible to the human mind. If scientists did not have faith that their questions might someday be answered, they wouldn't be working the same way they do. The Big Bang story is also a myth, describing the first few seconds of Creation in a way more or less satisfying to the human mind, based on the most accessible truth and understanding of the way the world works. It is not empirical science -- it can neither be tested nor replicated in a labratory. Modern people tend to give this myth more credence than the Genesis account, and it is probably closer to what really happened than the Genesis myth. But make no mistake -- it requires just that "credo" -- I believe -- not "I know" in any empirically verifable way. Given the progress of modern cosmology, it is likely that the Big Bang myth will be superseded fairly soon -- and will have held its grip on humanity for far less time than the Genesis myth. But like the Genesis myth, it will have served its purpose.
This is not to say that I do not believe that the Genesis myth could be more literally true than other Creation Accounts. It is to say that in its ultimate purpose, it is NOT in direct contradiction to modern science.
Uhm, because you have said over and over in this thread that you rely on materialistic, logical, mathematical truth rather than supernatural explanations for events. But I guess that's what I get for taking you at your word. My bad. You think I'd learn.
The rest of your post is just dumb. Sorry to be so blunt, but it is. There is no basis for any of your assumptions in anything I have said.
"Which is why every time somebody brings up archeologically-verified daily life desriptions in the Bible, you try as hard as you can to discredit them by saying "but the Creation Myth isn't literally true"."
You are incorrect. I'm not trying to discredit "archeologically-verified daily life desriptions in the Bible." I'm simply trying to discredit the notion that the enitre bible is a "true", "real", "literal" work of non-fiction.
In other words, I'm not trying to discredit the bible as a whole, I'm simply trying to point out that there are many parts and aspects that are fictional/mythological, which specifically suggests that indeed the enitre bible is not a "true", "real", "literal" work of non-fiction.
No, it was his schedule, too. He's a member of the family and in OUR family we HAD (for the purposes of OUR very survival) be on the road by 5am. Maybe you don't HAVE to, so if you held your kids to that schedule it would be yours only.
I had to. So did he. There's nothing "convenient" about the fact that I was up at 4am every morning.
Karen
"A pocketknife is like a melody;sharp in some places,
flat in others,
and really annoying when it's stuck in your head."
Karen
"A pocketknife is like a melody;sharp in some places,
Sorry, this should have read:
"which are questions that myth and allegory address."
But certainly myth and allegory (isn't) the *only* way in which to address these questions, right?
Yes. Are you under the impression that the Bible was intended to be a geography textbook and that the ancient, and largely uneducated people for whom it was originally written were taking college level earth studies classes? The Creation Story is the Word of God and the POINT of it is to give the "who dunnit" of creation, not "how he did it". How he did it is irrelevant to a book intended to teach people how to live in relationship with God, with each other and with the world around them.
Possibly one day, when we've licked the "how to live in relationship with others" part, God will write us a geography text explaining how he did it. In the meantime, we humans have a hard enough time just trying to live in relationship.
Karen
"A pocketknife is like a melody;sharp in some places,
flat in others,
and really annoying when it's stuck in your head."
Karen
"A pocketknife is like a melody;sharp in some places,
"On Sunday my 14 year old took a nap - heck sometimes my husband takes naps on the weekend, age has NOTHING to do with whether or not one needs a nap."
I love a good nap myself. However, the point here isn't about naps, in and of themselves, but rather the "scheduling" of naps. How do you think your 14 year old or dh would feel if you told them they both had to take a nap at a specific time whether they were tired or not, and regardless of the fact that *they* themselves know when *they* are tired? Do you see the difference?
"age has NOTHING to do with whether or not one needs a nap."
Again, the point here isn't about naps, in and of themselves, but rather the "scheduling" of naps.
"BOth my 6 year old and my 2 year old have 8:30 bedtimes during the school year."
Why do they have the same bedtime? Do 6 year olds and 2 year olds require the same amount of sleep? BTW, what does the "school year" have to do with the 2 year old?
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