How does this relate to the debate?

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Registered: 03-26-2003
How does this relate to the debate?
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Wed, 08-20-2003 - 7:56pm
Hey I rhymed! lol

Something occurred to me earlier and I wanted to see how others thought it might relate to the whole "which is harder SAH/WOH" portion of the debate that crops up so often.

I think that, when you look at either group *as a whole*, the WOHs might have it harder. And this is why ...

There are virtually no SAHMs who SAH because they "have to". There are virtually no SAHMs who are forced to SAH. A woman that SAH wants to SAH.(I'm sure there's a few exceptions out there; controlling dhs who MAKE their wives SAH, disabled children, etc) A woman that SAH doesn't hate her "job", or else she'd go get a WOH job. A woman that SAH is generally getting what she wants.

There are LOTS AND LOTS of WOHMs who WOH because they "have to". A single mom, or one whose dh doesn't make enough to support the family, or one with a disabled dh, whatever the case may be ... she may long, with all her heart, to SAH, but *can't*. Many WOHMs hate their jobs, but can't quit.

Anyhoo ... just wanted to stir up something new

Hollie

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Avatar for taylormomma
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Registered: 03-23-2003
Thu, 08-28-2003 - 9:20pm
Well, don't *I* feel like a dinosaur...
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Thu, 08-28-2003 - 9:37pm
I think you need a "drinking/computing" course ...
Avatar for akpennington
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Registered: 03-25-2003
Thu, 08-28-2003 - 11:03pm
Or I'm just a baby?
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Fri, 08-29-2003 - 12:17am
Yeah, that must be it!
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Registered: 03-27-2003
Fri, 08-29-2003 - 12:41am
But you arent posting a *strong opinion*. You make rude and uncalled for comments about where people live and how they live. You exude a strong sense of superiority for those who dont think money is the be all and end all-or those who arent lawyers. That isnt posting a strong opinion m'dear, because one can have a strong opinion without putting down others.

dj

Dj

"Now when I need help, I look in the mirror" ~Kanye West~

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Fri, 08-29-2003 - 1:23am
I thank my mother everyday for getting pregnant with me when she did rather that a couple months later. I'd hate to have been born in the 80s.
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Fri, 08-29-2003 - 5:01am
Except that there are some problems with that. Of course, you are welcome to think whatever you want about other posters, make up all kinds of scenarios in your head, even cultivate an intense dislike of them....HOWEVER, when you then put out what you think about another poster on the board -- THAT is a violation of the TOS. It's called a PERSONAL ATTACK and as such is not allowed. THAT's the problem with what you wrote.

In this forum we are free to criticize, dissect, dismantle, argue anything and everything related to a person's IDEAS that they WROTE. It is INAPPROPRIATE to use this forum to say nasty things ABOUT a particular poster as a PERSON.

Are you even starting to see the difference. You must on some level since you edited your comment yourself before i could see it (and before ivillage could be informed of it). HOWEVER, i have no doubt that what you wrote was a truly scathing PERSONAL attack -- judging by the general responses of the group.

I've taught my students and my own kids that there are "things that we say" and "things that we think"....and sometimes the "things that we think" are better off kept in our head so we don't offend anyone.

Personally, i don't care how you feel about me and it doesn't matter what i think about you because i will never write it. I can tell you that i find your posts whiney, difficult to understand and devoid of any shred of logic or seriousness. I have to wonder if you find this board so "mean-spirited"....WHY in the world would you waste your time here? Surely, you must have better things to do.

Eileen

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Registered: 03-29-2003
Fri, 08-29-2003 - 5:17am
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Could have fooled me! You seem to go on and on and on about how YOU spend all this time with YOUR daughter...and that that is WAY more important than friends, activities, etc.

actually, what you consider a "recant" (LOL!) is nothing such. What i offered you was an explanation. BUT, i should further clarify that NEITHER of my kids had ANY activities before entering their public schools in kindie. THAT's when their activities started....

i can see how ds' one night of tiger cubs for 1 hour each week for 2 years could be problematic for you.....LOL!

So, see, there's nothing to recant....in fact, we AGREE....<>

And that's exactly what they had.

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Hmmm, i've never stated any different. i've always been open and honest about my kids' activities and that they get to play with their friends.

eileen

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Fri, 08-29-2003 - 5:36am
Just when i thought your opinions couldn't get ANY more INSULTING. I'm saddened that this from you doesn't surprise me.

Luckily, i don't need to parent YOUR way....because i would never be so rude and insulting as to tell another poster that their EN of their 3+ yr. child was gross -- no matter if i really thought it was so.

YUCK. Just plain YUCK. Yet another posting low -- even for you.

eileen

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Registered: 03-29-2003
Fri, 08-29-2003 - 5:50am
this will be my last to you, as i have neither the time nor the inclination to bash my head against a concrete wall any longer.

But, just a few points of CLARIFICATION:

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No, actually, it makes me kind of sad that another poster would write such PERSONALLY vicious, rude things about another poster -- and claim that they have the "right" to do such.

It makes me proud that i won't let ANYONE take that kind of VERBAL PERSONAL ABUSE -- myself included. And i am proud of myself for doing the right thing by reporting posts that step over that line -- you know, that line that IVILLAGE set when you SIGNED the TOS??? NO one "deserves" to be personally attacked like that NO MATTER WHAT you think of them or their views.

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No, the hair splitting started when you agreed with a poster who made stereotypical wohm-bashing rhetoric in her post....<< you make some great points>>> THAT's where the problem started.

I left the "childCARE" issue behind long ago. i have no idea why you are bringing it up -- since it's not related to the current sub-thread at hand.

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I've got a better idea. Why not put ME on ignore and make your day a whole lot brighter? Go ahead, i know you can do it!

I've not misrepresented ANY opinion of yours, but have repeatedly asked for clarification. You refused to do that in post after post after post after post...and then whine about being misunderstood. WHATEVER.

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I've never called anyone a troll. But your posts here certainly have that "trollish flair" to them. I'm completely surprised that you don't recognize them as such -- seeing as you've been in ivillage a long time (as you claimed somewhere else)!

Have a great day. I'm off to work. really, just put me on ignore and then i won't bother you so much, LOL!

Eileen

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